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On the Destruction of Manic Pixie Dream Girls

I don't think any of this constitutes Paper Towns spoilers, but still, those looking to avoid spoilers might not want to read it.

In comments, anonymous writes: "John, I loved Paper Towns, but alas, Margo is a typical Manic Pixie Dream Girl." (The term Manic Pixie Dream Girl was coined by the brilliant Nathan Rabin of the Onion, with whom I am slightly acquainted.)

In response, let me begin by noting that the author of a novel is not synonymous with its narrator. First-person narration in a novel is inherently unreliable; the moment we notice the narrator's name is different from the author's name, we know that 1. the narrator is a creation of the author, and therefore that 2. the author knows more about the story than the narrator does.

So it is a mistake to presume that the narrator's perspective always reflects what a novel believes is capital-t True. One of the challenges of any first-person narrative is finding ways to point out the narrator's observational insufficiencies without abandoning his/her perspective.

Margo is certainly presented by Q as a Manic Pixie Dream Girl at the beginning of PT. Absolutely. But that only acknowledges that some boys believe in Manic Pixie Dream Girls; it doesn't argue that MPDGs actually exist, or that Margo is one. (The distinction is, I would argue, hugely important. It's the difference between saying, "Some people believe Sarah Palin would be a good President," and saying, "Sarah Palin would be a good President.") Paper Towns is a book about--at least in part--the MPDG lie, and the danger of the lie--the way it hurts both the observer and the observed. In order to uncover Margo's fate, Q must imagine Margo as a person, and abandon his long-held MPDG fantasies.

(I should add, by the way, that the Manic Pixie Dream Human is not a girl-specific problem; I can offer up any number of romanticized too-beautiful-for-this-world male romantic leads in contemporary novels, even very good ones.)

So anyway, if someone finishes Paper Towns believing in the MPDG, or if the novel in the end seems to further the bullshit myth of the MPDG, then PT is a failure, at least on that front. (The novel is fighting other battles, too, of course, but a lot of the imagery--the leaves and the whale and the mirrors and the hair always in everyone's face--does seek to hammer home this point that we must have faith that other people are, in fact, people.)

I actually think the MPDG criticism is more fairly leveled against a novel like, say, Looking for Alaska--in which the narrator, by nature of his circumstances, is never able to see the other as fully human. Some people say the books are similar; I think they are basically opposites, both plotwise and thematically. (What they have in common--smart teenagers who talk fast and do stupid shit--is, frankly, shared by every novel about adolescence I like, from Huck Finn to The Disreputable History of Frankie Landau Banks.)

Of course, I might be wrong about any/all of this. Discussion to continue in comments!

47 Comments:

At November 07, 2008 , Blogger Karen said...

I do see similarities between Looking for Alaska and Paper Towns, but I think there is a huge difference between Q and Miles.

And I also agree with you about the MPDG being a little stronger in Alaska than in PT. While Q has a preconceived notion about Margo, he challenges his observations about her and is easily willing to accept changes to the way he thinks about her. Miles is confused about Alaska, but it takes him a lot longer to change the way he thinks about her (and at some points, i would argue who doesn't change at all - he makes excuses so she can stay in the form he's created for her in his mind)

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger Tamaryn Tobian said...

John, I completely agree with this post. To say Margo is this or that is the very danger that Paper Towns speaks against.

So often, we meet people who, because we've given them a label, we think we know how they work; what makes them tick. When they disappoint or surprise us by doing something "so out of character" we are often not able to understand that we might not feel that way if we didn't project our beliefs, selves and perceptions onto them.

Humans will never stop doing this of course, but if we can try to step back and remember that people have emotions and react to things because they're human too, humanity might do a little better.

It's like, most of us can't understand why someone would want to bomb a building, rob a bank, or shoot someone, but until we are able to at least try and place ourselves in their circumstances and their ideals or perhaps hopelessness, we won't be able to see them as human or in all their complexity.

I think Paper Towns reminds us that the world is not black and white. I think you succeeded in teaching some and reminding others of this very important fact.

I know I've started looking at the people around me somewhat differently than I did before I read your book.

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger Stefan said...

I think the most interesting thing about the whole MPDG construct is that the mythos is fake. I know 3 or 4 girls who at first glance fall very much in to the MPDG mold. Of course any closer inspection reveal complex individuals.

The argument against the MPDG is really an argument again bad writing that fails to see people in more then one dimension. MPDG are just the latest incarnation of flat characterizations that exist in all media an entertainment. Any 1 dimensional character deserves to be criticised.

One of the reason I think the MPDG has come to the forefront of criticism about flat characterization is that women have traditionally been poorly written. Recently the MPDG is has been just another manufactured stereotype that marginalizes women in media.

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger Jordon M. Birk said...

You know--being unfamiliar with the term "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" and then checking it out--I was able to greater appreciate movies like Harold and Maude, where the twist is that the Manic Pixie Dream Girl is far from being a dream girl and is only such by virtue of her manic pixie-ness (of course the shot of the tattoo on Maude's arm automatically equates to a bit more complexity of her as a character).

I guess every last one of us has, in one way shape or form, encountered what we thought was a manic pixie dream girl, only to find that they have issues in their home life, etc.. Some of us may have unknowingly been a bit of a manic pixie to someone else, having presented ourselves as friendly and outgoing (and even been attractive--which virtually no one considers themself to be, anyway) and being a very lonely, depressed person in our home lives....
Oi.

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger marrije said...

John Green, you have wonderful readers. And you have worked hard to attrackt them, so, yay!

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger Paul Carpenter said...

Teenage boys don't just believe in MPDGs, they furiously want to believe in them. When you're young you want to believe in something fantastic so badly that you start seeing them in real people, both friends and celebrities, even sometimes enemies because you want to believe in perfection so badly*. I think it's even possible to do this with fictional characters such as Margo right up until the last few pages.

I would say that you John, made a MPDG for us, and then stole her away to teach us a lesson. If someone read nearly up to end and then got interrupted, I think they could be forgiven for still having an MPDG in their head.

*immediately after typing that sentence I realised my Holden Caulfield style inappropriate use of the second person.

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger Libby said...

I think this may be the best definition of YA literature I've ever read: "smart teenagers who talk fast and do stupid shit." I've been mulling over the problem for a while and this may have solved it for me--thanks!

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger Amy said...

This is interesting, because I think I will have to re-read PT to see Margo as a MPDG. I'm a 25 year old woman and have been a cynic for over a decade (even when I was a teenager) and I almost immediately disliked teenaged Margo and didn't see her as remotely similar to any of the classic MPDG characters. But I was judging her from my perspective as a woman and an adult, not as Q did, completely bypassing Q's perception of her. Perhaps my problem is that I have never known many teenaged boys and can't pretend to understand them, and from what I understand your depiction of a certain type of teenaged boy is spot-on. Will have to take another look.

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger Megan Frazer Blakemore said...

I just finished Paper Towns and at the beginning, I was annoyed because the MPDG is one of my biggest pet peeves. Then there was Q's wonderful realization. I loved, loved, loved how Q realizes that he's seeing Margo as he needs to see her. One of my opposite of a pet peeves is when writers and other artists play with stereotypes, turn them inside out, and make them more interesting and telling -- when they use stereotypes to make us think more deeply rather than less. Paper Towns does this brilliantly.

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger Zoe said...

I completely agree with you about his. By saying that Margo is something, they are going against the very concept that Paper Towns stands for.

On a non-related topic...I am currently watching you and Hank on BlogTV...DFTBA.

 
At November 07, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to say that Alaska was much more MPDG than Margo. Margo was definitely MPDG until you actually came to the climax of the novel, where I think you did a fine job of shattering that image. I can't say I liked Margo, but I did appreciate her more after the MPDG epidemic was over. I think my dislike for her and Alaska comes from my being a girl. But isn't the whole point of PT the fact that she is originally seen as a MPDG?

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger thamily said...

I am confounded as to how "anonymous" could have come to the conclusion that Margo is an MPDG. Did he/she not read the end of the book? Or the middle? Or the beginning, including all of the forshadowing that Q's lifelong vision of Margo is incorrect? Or the obvious and borderline repetitive introspections of how one can never truly see another person? (Not intended as a dis, btw. Just highlighting the very clear characterization involved.)

Reminds me of when I taught writing/lit to a homeschool group, and I revamped the curriculum to include Flannery O'Connor, Ray Bradbury, Faulkner, etc. Oh, the parental uproar! One family in particular amazed me:

Parents: "This story is trash! This other story teaches children to hate their parents! This story over here ate a puppy!"
Me: (trying to explain characterization, unreliable narrative, etc, then,) "Didn't you read the ending?"
Parents: "We didn't have to!"

Note to all: ALWAYS read the ending. Twice.

 
At November 07, 2008 , Blogger T said...

Margo is not a Manic Pixie Dream Girl, because she HAS an 'inner-life'. The main argument against the MPDG is that they exist in the world SOLELY for bringing the main guy out of his shell or into the world or whatever, and as a completely one dimensional, shallow character.
Margo was not a one dimensional dream girl, but most of the characters saw her as that, and that is probably why 'anonymous' did as well.
But, the whole story of Paper Towns is proving that Margo is more than one-dimensional, that she has a life outside of the life that Q and Lacey and Ben and everybody else gives her.

The MPDG may exist in fiction, but there is no way in heck that they exist in real life.
But a lot of people believe they do, which is the ultimate problem with MPDG lie, obviously. They convince people that there is a person out there for them who is just going to come along and be silly and have absolutely no problems and no life and exist solely for their happiness... and nothing else. And this leads to objectifying and generally really sucky stuff. And there's a really nice paragraph in Paper Towns, where Q is finally realizes this, that Margo is not an 'adventure' or a 'miracle'. She's a person, and no person can successfully fit into the label of anything, whether it be the Manic Pixie or anything else.

So, I don't don't know where exactly I'm leading with this... but I just wanted to let you know that by no means is Paper Towns a failure.

-Teagan

 
At November 07, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not good at discussing things, so I'm just going to say that I'm reading Huck Finn for english and I love it.

 
At November 07, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm, I'd agree with you however, I not really sure what your point is. So, I'll just ramble about what I think. I think that when you first read your books you observe one meaning and feel one way. Then maybe three days later you'll have a minor epiphany and immediatly burst into tears at finaly understanding the book. (Yes people may stare at you strangly). For example, when I first read Paper Towns I finished feeling numb and stripped of all emotions. However, I also was thinking,"What kind of ending is that!". Then I let my friend Katherine read Paper Towns. Three days later when she had finished it having roughly the same reaction I did. I got it. I can see now the beauty of Paper Towns. I think that Alaska is like this except at the end of Alaska you're probably to sad to think about anything other than the fact that your sad. Then, once you've gotten over the sadness you feel happy and sad and probably yell something like," Oh, I get it, Yes!""Where is my copy of Alaska.""Must re-read NOW!"

At least that's what happened in my brain.

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just wanted to pop in and say that I never thought of Alaska as a MPDG, because to me it always seemed pretty clear that she was *trying* to create the image that she's portraying to Miles. Miles doesn't get it. And John Green certainly isn't making it obvious, but I think there are lines ("You smoke to enjoy it; I smoke to die") that are-- if you think about it for a few seconds-- very clearly part of a self-created image. And the thing is, as long as we're talking about girls who are appearing quirky and eccentric *on purpose*, I really don't think it's unbelievable. I'm a 16 year old girl, and not only do I know people like Alaska (to a certain point), around certain guys at certain times I have definitely slipped into the role of the MPDG (at least I think so). I love the character of Alaska. I think she is quirky and she is fun and she is sexy and intriguing and all the other things that Miles thinks she is, but she's also a little bit pathetic and a lot adolescent, and that's what makes her this utterly fascinating character.

Anyway, if you read this, John, I'd be curious to hear your response if you have a moment. But yeah, I really don't think LfA is in any way stereotyping girls, except to maybe say that some girls feel like they have to act a certain way (but, as you demonstrated with your Palin President thing, that's completely different), and it remains one of my favorite books I've ever read.

~ Madeleine

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I get the whole "pixie girl" thing and thought that the disolving of Margo before our (and Q's) eyes was well done.

But what about Q? Where does he fit? The type of MC who's only goal is to BE enlightened by "pixie girl" or by the fallout of "pixie girl" tumbling off her pedestal usually is portrayed as someone who has some sort of cavernous need in his life. A need he is trying to soothe with a girl that actually wants nothing to do with him. Yet Q seemed relatively well-adjusted. He didn't appear to be in lust with Margo to some sort of dangerous degree, he had a future in that he was heading to college, he did have friends, etc...

I suppose that's one thing that bothered me a bit by PT -- which is an exceptional book -- why does Q have this pressing need to find a girl he knows doesn't care about him in any tangible way? What is driving that need? In a cheesey high school road-trip movie it'd be as simple as trying to get laid. But obviously Q is smarter than that, and that's why I was thrown.

Maybe I'm thinking too much. Books do that to me.

 
At November 08, 2008 , Blogger stephie said...

I have to say that I love John's subtle dig at Edward Cullen in this post. Oh the multitudes I could say about him...

Do you think that this obsession with the unrealistic MPDG is somewhat a result of our obsession with celebrity? We want celebrities to be perfect so that we can admire/envy them from afar. We spend millions of dollars as a country keeping the celebrity myth alive, and then the second they, you know, show their human flaws, we turn on them. We want our literary characters to be like our celebrities: perfect, untouchable, MPDGs. I think these things are connected... but I'm not sure exactly how else to say it.

Oh My God. Speaking of celebrity: Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, and Lindsay Lohan are signed up to star in a sitcom together... really? REALLY? Let's get over the obsession. Please?

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think there is a big difference between PT and Alaska, just the attitude of your writing has changede A LOT. Alaska is a lot sadder, but it's also more thoughtful and slow, where as PT is more upbeat and it's more fun to read.

I liked Alaska better than Margo, and I liked Miles better than Q, but I still liked Margo and Q. I think that Alaska and Margo are really very similar. They are both compulsive and beautiful and smart and a little selfish. But in Alaska, Miles was friends with Alaska, and so we learn more about her, thus there is no Manic Pixie element to her, because we know her as we know Miles. Margo is more of a mystery because she's really only around in about one chapter before she goes away.

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I finished Paper Towns yesterday. It was AWESOME. That is all.

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

*SPOILERS* I JUST finished Paper Towns (after my local book store failed to have it in stock several times) and I must say that I've never laughed so often while reading a fiction novel. I was making a spectacle of myself and loving it. I have to admit that I lived in fear that Margo not only would Margo remain 2D, but she would just become this typical "2D character that redeems herself" However, I was very impressed that you did neither. I can't decide how I feel about Margo, or anyone other than Ben and Radar (whom I loved), but I feel like she was more like a real person than a paper girl. ACTUALLY, I really hope you read this and go check out a spoken word piece by Mary Fons called Paper Girl. You will love it and it follows that same ideas of the "paper girl" in Paper Towns. PLEASE go youtube it!

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no one way anyone who actually read Paper Towns can call Margo - except Q's perception of her at the beginning of the novel - a MPDG.

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do have to say that I completely love Looking for Alaska, but in a way I hated the character of Alaska, becuase she was kind of a MPDG,and as a girl it's especially hard to put up with a character like that. BUT I loved the book partly becuase Alaska wasn't presented as this great dream girl, she was just the object of Pudge's affections. And Pudge realized she wasn't a dream either. At first Margo seemed like she was headed in the MPDG direction, which made it even more satisfying when Q realizes he's seeing her how he wants to see her.

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"(I should add, by the way, that the Manic Pixie Dream Human is not a girl-specific problem; I can offer up any number of romanticized too-beautiful-for-this-world male romantic leads in contemporary novels, even very good ones.)"

hmm, who could that be?

cough Edward Cullen cough.

(which is funny, but cough cough Edward Cullen would not have been. the things one learns from BH 2.0...)

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, I found the poem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y-3I-PTF0Y
Okay, please read the poem and it would be great to hear what you think of it. Upon re-listening, it's a little different, but it's definitely worth listening to.

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Green, you are my Manic Pixie Dream Guy. P.S. Check out my bookstore blog for an AWESOME stunt pulled by nerdfighters recently. The entry is 3 or 4 down from the top.

www.ggpreviews.blogspot.com

 
At November 08, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

i want to let you know that Paper Towns was one of the best books i've ever read. Right up there with Harry Potter, Twilgiht, and Thirteen Reasons Why. it changed me. I loved every single word you wrote.

 
At November 09, 2008 , Blogger sofi` said...

For one, let me just say that you are something of, shall we say, a god, John Green.
Okay now that that's out of the way..
The theory of MPDG's is so true. In so many books (*cough* TWILIGHT *cough*) you get this one sided view of a person, a perfect indestructable beautiful person, and usually the author tries to present the reader with come contradicting flaws about that person, but they are usually pretty lame, and the MPDG still survives.
What was so wonderful and satisfying about PT is that Q has fallen in love with this notion of Margo's perfect-wonderful-fucking-amazingness, but by the end of PT he is able to see her for herself, not an MPDG, and still love her. That sounds so cheesey, but isn't it a great notion that we (girls I'm talking right now) don't need to be MPDG's.. Because it seems we all try to be, and when we don't suceed we get crushed.
I don't know if anything I just wrote makes sense..

 
At November 09, 2008 , Blogger Michal Chinn said...

Paper Towns definately changed the way I look at the people around me. Before I read the book I completely forgot that people are just people. I would put them in these little boxes and label them "super-human" or "perfect." I should have been trying to figure out who they were, not what they were.

I also realized when I heard you speak that all of those crazy things that I tried to hide away from the world, the ideas that I thought made me weird or the feelings that I was conceited enough to think that only I felt were shared by other people, maybe even everyone. You told a story about how when you were little you thought that everyone else was an alien, and all I could think was "oh. my. gosh." because I thought similar things when I was young. This book along with the insight that you provided on the tour have changed me in the best of ways, and it is my plan to share a little of this insight with everyone I encounter. If we could get everyone to see everyone else as people, nothing more and nothing less, imagine how life could be.

 
At November 09, 2008 , Blogger Heather said...

I normally don't comment because I normally don't have anything very clever to say, but since I was definitely going to come here anyway and say how much The Disreputable History of Frankie Landau Banks ROCKS, I feel I should give my input.

I think there is a major difference between Looking for Alaska and Paper Towns. As I've said to my friends many times, I can't pick my favorite John Green novel because they all fall in completely different categories. You have Looking for Alaska which is a philosophical and sad novel about funny people, you have An Abundance of Katherines which is a funny, lighthearted novel about people and their relationships (of any kind), and then you have Paper Towns, the novel in between, one that makes you think, but simultanesouly makes you laugh. It's about people, and people alone. Not about people with other people or people after death.

So there's a huge difference in all of them really, and even with your story in Let It Snow.

Also, I don't think that Margo is a MPDG because that's the whole point of everything, isn't it? That people may be completely different from how you percieve them? To Quentin, Margo is a MPDG but that all changes in the end when he sees her in Agloe, and she's dirty and mean and nothing as he knew her before. The Margo he knew her as before is what a MPDG would be, if they existed, which I don't think they do, because nobody is fully like that, they're painted to be like that.

But that's it, really. =)

 
At November 09, 2008 , Blogger lnewport said...

I'm haven't read all of the comments above mine, so this may very well be redundant. Forewarned is forearmed.

Anyway, I've only read Paper Towns once, and that reading was admittedly quick because I was so excited to get through the book and find out what happened. Therefore, I wasn't paying very close attention to minor literary details but, instead, was mostly trying to hit the major plot points.

That being said, Q's fallibility as a narrator shone through for me, even during my quick read. As soon as I finished the book, I spent about 15 minutes reflecting on what I thought the book's "point" was. I came to the conclusion that the author (a.k.a. you) was trying to communicate that people aren't always as they seem and that we often mistake what we WANT to see in a person with what is actually there.

I had never heard of the MPDG before you started discussing it via BlogTV and this blog. Nevertheless, I got the point. I attribute it to outstanding writing :)

 
At November 10, 2008 , Blogger BrianM said...

What I wonder though is if Anonymous' comment on the MPDG doesn't actually just continue Margo's story? We can read the same story and reach all together different conclusions about the characters because we tend to slot people into categories rather than let them be fully human.

I think that the perception of Margo as an MPDG is inevitable because some of us still see them everywhere and characters, once they're in our heads, take on a whole new life that we - the readers - give them.

I also think the book was brilliant and plan to review it on my blog soon.

 
At November 10, 2008 , Blogger Johanna said...

I do wonder what a John Green female character would be like if she were the main character of a novel.

 
At November 10, 2008 , Blogger thamily said...

I was thinking the other day, reminiscing on this post, that one huge example of the MPDG is Gilmore Girls, and it was written by a woman. And women love it. (Well, at least until they grow up. I adored it on first viewing, waited a few years, then watched it again whereupon my response was not one of vicarious delight but "What's *wrong* with these women?") In fact, I place a pretty heavy blame on Gilmore Girls as a series for the recent proliferation of real-life MPDGs.
For a really good deconstruction of the MPDG, watch Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

 
At November 10, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems, though, that the idea of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl is used to improve the life of the (broody, lonesome, unexciting) male protagonist, but, while Margo does make his life far more exciting that first night, he is thereafter rather destructively obsessed with her. He isn't brought up out of any kind of boring, routine funk his life has been wallowing in for years, he's merely switched from one funk (sitting around playing Resurrection and daydreaming about perfect, amazing, legendary, wondrous Margo from a distance) to a new funk (sitting around and trying desperately to find and retrieve this perfect, amazing, legendary, wondrous girl who he just might have been able to build a relationship with) - there's nothing particularly uplifting about it, really, except for after he realizes that Margo isn't some kind of Manic Pixie Dream Girl just some kind of kind of bossy, aggressive, lonely girl who does cool stuff and has built up an aura to feed her sense of self. Then is when Q starts to come to great revelations about the human mind and recognizing the complexities of others, not in the brief nighttime he spent traipsing about doing awesome, random things with Margo.

Even besides that, the MPDG seems to be all that is shown - that is, you see everything about that person's (rather shallow) existence, which rather notably misses an inner or independent life. But Margo does have an inner, independent life, and it's only in the mind of Q (and lots of other high school students) that she exists solely to decrease suck by doing rather awe-worthy things.

 
At November 10, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

How are Lorelai and Rory MPDGs?

 
At November 11, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that Paper Towns is more about understanding people and Looking for Alaska is kind of more about understanding life. This way, it makes sense that Pudge never fully understands Alaska, because that's not what he is *really* trying to figure out. Q *is* trying to figure out Margo, so it makes sense that he knows more about her at the end than Pudge in Alaska. Pudge keeps Alaska as kind of an idea in his mind, never allowing her to change- which lends itself more to MPDG than Q with Margo, because Q makes an effort to change his view of Margo. Paper Towns, to me, is reminding us that we are all human, and will never truly know everything about anyone. But trying matters.

 
At November 12, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unrelated, but I thought you might be interested in 'secret' #139:
http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/216706.html#cutid1

 
At November 13, 2008 , Blogger emily said...

I just realized, thanks to your post, that I have a tendency to MPDG other girls, sort of. I'm a girl, and it's not really in a romantic way, I just kind of idolize them, and think their so cool, and hope desperately that they think I'm cool, and stuff like that.. When I get confronted with the reality that these girls are not perfect, that they're a little bit fucked up as everyone is. I just put it out of my mind. Now that I realize that, I'm going to consciously try and stop. Thank you for that epiphany.

 
At November 13, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this is incredibly off topic, but can someone please relay some info on the supposed LfA film in '10??!

 
At November 14, 2008 , Blogger Better to know than not know... said...

"smart teenagers who talk fast and do stupid shit"

Hey, that describes a lot of adults I know!

 
At November 15, 2008 , Blogger thamily said...

MPDG anagrams to, among others:

A Cad Imperiling Remix
A Germicidal Ripe Minx
A Medicinal Griper Mix
A Pandemic Elixir Grim
A Miracle Id Premixing

Or especially, in Margo's case:
A Climaxed Ire Priming

 
At November 16, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, I was going to write something long and very intelligent sounding, but it is 4 in the morning and I just looked over everyone's comments and basically everything I was going to say has been said, so... just a couple things:

1) PT is definitely your best book.
2) I related to Margo a lot, and I realized just now that it's probably because I have a tendency to be MPDG-ed by the people around me, which I can't even explain properly but... um... it's something I've been feeling for a while and now I have a name for it so thank you.
3) I think the point you made in Paper Towns is incredibly important, and I've been explaining it to the people around me for two weeks. It has made me feel very self-actualized and zen. Thank you, again.
4) On a totally trivial note: what color is Margo's hair? There's a line toward the end that says "chestnut", which makes me think light brown, but on the cover it's very dark. I was confused.

That's... pretty much it.

 
At November 20, 2008 , Blogger Little Willow said...

Great interview at Writing and Ruminating today. As I commented over there, the title of this piece alone makes them sound as though they are the offspring of Tinker Bell and Beckett from Innocence by Jane Mendelsohn - both of whom ROCK! - and I agree with much of what you've said here. Speaking as someone highly favors narrator Nick in The Great Gatsby - that character, his viewpoint, why he was the one telling the story - and as someone who sees a great deal of good in letting the 'secondary' character be the narrator (though some misuse it and/or make everything 'happily ever after'), I salute you.

 
At November 24, 2008 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read Paper Towns in something close to 3 hours, I even took a day off school to read it. You have corrupted the mind of an otherwise educationally dedicated fan. Well done, mate.

I loved the book, actually to be honest, I was at Chapters in Belleville (which is near Ottawa, Ontario, which also happens to be our clearly misplaced capital here in Canada), and I was sifting through rubbish on the new picks table when your name caught my eye, and I, and there is at least a little truth in this, spazzed out of my mind with nerdy awesomeness, picked it up, and snuck it into my mum's pile of books.

She was not impressed, did you know it costs a lot?! Well it does, but it was well worth it.

As a side note to my waytoolong comment, I'm taking a Creative Writing course in high school right now, and as our ISU I have to write an outline, and 2-3 chapters of a novel, with at least one author in mind (two books read, and analyzed as well). I chose you, and Looking for Alaska and Paper Towns as my novels to analyze.

:) I hope my teacher can appreciate my definite NEED to show some of the Brotherhood videos as a part of my presentation. It's necessary, trust me.

 
At January 22, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reading this post now...and the linked to reading materials on the MPDG, I have realized one of my own fundamental flaws--and, perhaps, the fundamental flaw of one of my favorite novels. Though I have held the idea that we all need to do a better job of recognizing the humanity in people for many years before reading Paper Towns, I have still managed to hold on to my MPDG foolishness. Even through my reading of Paper Towns, and subsequent philosophizing, I find that I was still attached to my MPDG myths and desires. I fell in love with Alaska to the extent that she was an MPDG. Stargirl by Jerry Spinelli fails to the extent that the titular character is an MPDG. I'm actually devastated right now, in that I'm finally realizing that I have to let MPDGs go.

 
At June 24, 2010 , Anonymous Shelby said...

I know this is an old post, but it was linked on the readergirlz website so I read it. I'd never heard of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl and was flabbergasted by the whole concept. Then, I started looking at my favorite books. And movies. And songs. I also read the Onion article and a couple of other articles on it (summer gives me wayyyyy too much time on my hands.)However, I could not find a list of Manic Pixie Dream Boys. You said that you could think of a few. If you could, would you mind composing a list? Or possibly a list of Mysterious Philanthropic Dream Boys as there is just something inherently unattractive about a pixie boy.

 

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