John Green: Author of Paper Towns, An Abundance of Katherines and Looking for Alaska
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A Window into Book Challenges

There's a story on the New York Times web site today about the Brooklyn Public Library's response to book challenges. The story mentions my book Looking for Alaska in passing:

"The 11 written objections to Brooklyn’s collection include complaints about “Beloved,” by Toni Morrison (sexual content), and “Looking for Alaska,” by John Green (obscenity and denigration of religion)."

First, let me just say what a pleasure it is to appear in the same sentence as Nobel laureate Toni Morrison. Anyway, the coolest thing about the story is that the Times reprints the complaint letters and the library's responses.

Everyone who has to deal with challenges should take the time to page through those documents, because I think the library's response is pitch perfect. They don't try to argue that Alaska isn't obscene (although it isn't) or that it doesn't denigrate religion (although it doesn't*); instead they just point out that lots of people feel the book has literary value and that libraries aren't in the business of being parents. Amen.

Also, this complaint letter about Beloved is totally worth reading because it begins, "It said stuff about [word blacked out] cows," and it is fun to imagine what that word might be.



*This of course I find particularly galling, obviously. But it's not the library's job to defend the religious cred of the book, or to defend it against charges of obscenity. That's my job.

27 Comments:

At August 19, 2009 , Anonymous bekabee said...

Wow. Librarians are like superheroes!

John,
I was wondering what your thoughts are about a rating system. I noticed that some patrons were motioning for "signage" to label certain books as explicit/mature, etc. While I'm against censorship, I'm wondering what the pro/cons of having a rating system similar to the MPAA in public libraries. To me, it seems like it wouldn't be putting books to any harsher scrutiny than movies. Anyway, I'd like to hear your thoughts!

 
At August 19, 2009 , Anonymous Angelica said...

Cool! Tought i have'nt read "Looking for Alaska" but I will soon, cuz it seem to be pretty awsome. I love papertowns btw ;)

 
At August 19, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for addressing this.

 
At August 19, 2009 , Blogger Katie Green said...

Hello John Green! I know this isn't exactly topic-related, but I am dying to know if you will be visiting Georgia in the near future. Preferably the Middle GA area? Haha. If you can answer this, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

PS. bekabee, librarians are superheroes :)

 
At August 19, 2009 , Anonymous YA FIC GRE said...

my opinion on a rating system is that it would cause people to focus too much on the "explicit/mature" rating and take attention away from what might be a really good book, and/or draw attention to the book for all the wrong reasons.

 
At August 19, 2009 , Anonymous bekabee said...

Re: YA FIC GRE

(Forgive me. I'm a film major.)

Isn't that what happens to movies all the time? I know many people who refuse to watch R rated movies, despite the fact that many of them are magnificent films. Inversely, some people won't go see a movie in the theater if its rated below R. Its not a good system - MPAA frustrates me a lot - but I believe some kind of rating is necessary for movies. Why not books?

(I understand that the Library is a publicly funded institution and therefore subject to different scrutiny than Blockbuster, but all the same I am curious what kind of forum has occurred on this subject.)

 
At August 19, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe that libraries in the continental United States should have books about the non-contiguous United States.

 
At August 19, 2009 , Anonymous YA FIC GRE said...

re bekabee
good point. i never really thought of it that way. but personally, i wouldn't like the ratings because i think they would be distracting, to me at least, when i was standing in front of a library shelf, you know, that awesome moment when you're like, wow. all these books. where do i start?!?!
ya. i like to read. :)

 
At August 19, 2009 , Blogger KellyWalsh777 said...

One of the baffling things about this situation is the tiny minority of parents' effort to keep everyone from having access to certain books. While Ms. Avril Thomas and others have every right to keep their children from accessing library shelves, it should also be the right of every parent to use discretion and help their children to make choices. These choices should not be made for us by the government and certainly not by a handful of parents who want to control the presses.

I know I'm preaching to the choir (oh, and what an apt metaphor that is) but Looking for Alaska is one of the most faith-affirming books I can recall. That its characters speak God's name in vain or engage in sexual activities is not necessarily an endorsement of such behavior but a representation of 1) how real people sometimes act and 2) the story of growth that the characters are experiencing.

I've never understood people who promote censorship. If all these books were removed from the shelves, horrible things would still happen in the world and people would still make poor choices. We would just be less equipped to handle them, less aware of the consequences, and less capable of growing into full human beings.

 
At August 19, 2009 , Anonymous Tom said...

Rock on rock on middle finger to the book banners.

Here's a question: When Q and Ben and Radar are driving out to the minimall shouting along with The Mountain Goats, what song are they singing? No Children?

 
At August 19, 2009 , Blogger Beth G said...

It is interesting to see a different Challenged Material Form. At the library where I work, any challengers have to mark that they actually READ the book (not just looking for bad words). Plus, the Beloved book is in the Adult section!

 
At August 19, 2009 , Anonymous Brutangel22 said...

I coompletely agree. If Christians don't wanna read obscene books, then we just shouldn't read them. And if we wan't our children not to read it, we should be diligent. not ban the book. And if we want to change the culture, we have to do it by the pulpit and by talking to people, not by banning books.

 
At August 19, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

I particularly enjoyed the letter challenging Looking for Alaska, especially the fact that the writer included "four pages taken at random" from the book to illustrate her complaint. I really doubt those pages were truly random.

I dislike when parents try to censor their child's reading. My own mother made me return Interview with the Vampire by Anne Rice when I was fourteen because a friend of hers thought it was too graphic for a teenager. So, after I returned it to the library, I promptly bought it at a bookstore, hid it under my bed, and read it at night. I mean, Interview with the Vampire isn't the best book I've ever read, nor is it the most explicit in terms of content, but just her telling me I wasn't allowed to read it made me want to read it even more. It's a shame I wasn't able to check it out of the library, but it took me a while to read it (and I didn't want to deal with renewal and late fees).

 
At August 19, 2009 , Blogger Dee said...

John, you are seriously making me think of "Librarian" as a definite career choice. THAT'S how you fight ignorance!

 
At August 20, 2009 , Blogger Mandi said...

Okay, I have a question for you, John. It is mostly hypothetical, but my musings stem from a book that I have actually read. I've been trying to find examples of this type of book-challenge, but so far I've failed.
Say there was a book whose central premise was that a certain industry (pig farming, nuclear power, gun manufacturing, take your pick) somehow brought mass destruction, either on a community level or more (examples: swine flu outbreak, nuclear meltdown, mass organized crime). People who were employed by this organization are referred to as evil by the other characters and no redeeming qualities of the industries are discussed (examples: food production, power with low greenhouse-gas emissions, protection and a means of hunting for food).
Let us further suppose that the town where this book is challenged is home to the industry that is the subject of the book. The book is in a middle school library, and a parent who works for the industry (which employs perhaps a third of the students' parents) is the one who makes the challenge. Their fear is that students who read the book will get negative, one-sided views about the industry and may become ashamed of their parents' job. The parent making the challenge realizes that it is their own responsibility to educate their children about their particular career, but the book uses very frightening imagery to show the aftermath of the (choose-the-disaster-here). They are afraid that it will be hard to undo the effect that a well-written book (and there is no argument that the book is not well-written) can have on a child.
Furthermore (nope, not done yet), it is publicly known that the author is (a member of PETA, anti-nuclear, anti-gun, against whatever the industry is) and that his/her intent was to tell his/her readers that his/her view is the correct one.

So. Would the parent be justified in challenging this book? They would probably be happy if it was moved to a section that would require parental consent for check-out. Do you think that the library would do this?
Authors, of course, can write whatever they want, but is it morally wrong to try to get this type of message out to an established readership?
I welcome any and all thoughts on this; I'm very curious to hear anyone's opinions!

 
At August 20, 2009 , Anonymous Nidoubleki said...

John,
This complaint makes me sad. I'm no guru of the English language, but are you serious, a grown person wrote that?! This worries me!
As far as public libraries go i don't see why anyone would complain, i really don't. We have a freedom of speech, do we not have a freedom to read whatever we choose? Censorship or mature content labels, yes i can deal with that. Eliminating books from the libraries is not a solution! My question is how do you develop a rating system that would make everyone happy?

 
At August 20, 2009 , Anonymous Nidoubleki said...

Ok, so i didn't read many of the complaint letters until after i posted my comment, but all of these people are talking about pornography?
Is it happening in these books, maybe, but i am really curious to know if these people own televisions and if they "shield" there children away from that because they probably don't. We are culture SURROUNDED by sex be it tv, books, magazines, or whatever! SURROUNDED i cant even emphasize enough on that!

 
At August 20, 2009 , Anonymous Amy said...

The problem with labels:
1)Define "mature content". What is mature to me is different than what is mature to most challengers. This would do virtually nothing to solve the problem because the challengers would want those labels on EVERYTHING and would just spend their time challenging your use of labels.
2)It is a form of censorship in that it says "this book is not appropriate for ___". Not really my job. I am supposed to decide what belongs in my collection for a broad range of readers based on the quality of the title. The readers (and/or their parents) are supposed to decide if it's the right book for them.
3)You might as well put a red flag on the book and stand by the stacks yelling "Hey, tweens! Get your sex and violence here!"

For the record, I hate even putting genre labels on books. It's too confusing (for me) and I feel it discourages readers from browsing and reading outside of their "comfort zone".

Librarians. We're a contentious lot.

 
At August 20, 2009 , Blogger Literature Crazy said...

I guess my response to Amy's issues would be that, as she stated, even the genre categories aren't always cut and dried, but somehow the librarians muscle through and do their best. It's not a perfect system--at my local library Chabon's Summerland was with the general fiction adult titles and Sittenfeld's Prep was in the Teen/YA section--but it's all we've got.

Just as the Brooklyn Librarian responded in the request for labels on the books, labels that help guide are allowable (and even recommended). Is there a chance that if the ALA developed a guide (similar to the MPAA rating system) that some books wouldn't be read by some because their rating was too high and they (or their parents) wouldn't allow it? Of course, but there are also people who won't read Chabon's The Yiddish Policemen's Union because it's catalogued in mysteries (and they don't like to read mysteries).

Sometimes the line between censorship and pragmatism is fine, but it's worth discussing.

 
At August 20, 2009 , Anonymous Amy said...

Librarians often discuss the difference between censorship and selection. I make judgments about books every day - but it is about whether or not the book belongs in my collection (quality of the title and good match for patrons) and whether it belongs in adult/YA/kids. It is NOT about which readers should/should not be allowed to read that book. The closest I am willing to come to that kind of call is deciding which collection it goes in.

YA books are the perfect example of this quandry. Our YA collection is basically for 6th-12th grade. There are some books that may not be suitable for some 6th graders. But there may also be some 9th or even 12th graders for whom it may not be suitable. These are such subjective decisions. We make a decision based on review and publisher recommendations to put it in YA. Beyond that, it is up to the reader to decide.

 
At August 21, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must be a poor reader, because I totally missed the religious put-downs in Alaska. Even though I've read it twice in the past 6 months. Hmm...

As for obscenity, how's about the people worried about censorship take a trip to your average 8th grade classroom? Because honestly, school is too innappropriate for children. Middle school should be NC 17. Alaska was an honest depiction of real people with real thoughts, and didn't sugarcoat with the standard fluff of today's YA. No "inappropriate content" label needed. Perhaps a "beware of awesome" label.

 
At August 21, 2009 , Blogger Zoë said...

I think banning books is a crazy thing to do. I don't understand why some people feel so discomforted by a novel's content that they need to have it removed. If I don't want to read a book then I'll decide for myself, thanks. I suppose it has one good side-effect: when people ban books it makes me want to read the challenged material even more. Anyway, thank you for writing books and thank you for writing about books on your blog; I love reading, but haven't done it very much lately. Your words have inspired me to read more.

 
At August 21, 2009 , Blogger Haley said...

Hi John...
I thought you would think this was cool- http://personas.media.mit.edu/

It is an aggregator from MIT that attempts to characterize a person's identity given the information that is on the internet. It reminded me a lot of Margo Roth Spiegelman and how we can never really know a person.

 
At August 21, 2009 , Blogger LibGds said...

Lynx,
Off the top of my head, the closest thing I can think of to fit your hypothetical situation is the picture book Sylvester and the Magic Pebble was challenged by a group representing the police because the author/illustrator made all the characters animals and he made the police pigs in his book.

 
At August 25, 2009 , Anonymous BentKatana said...

Hi John, read this on your goodreads page and was angered. D:< I left a comment on your page, but it said you didn't go on much, so here is it. Just wanted you to know how I felt on it ;) Thanks!

With much Nerdfighter love, BentKatana =^o^=

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Hahaha, and besides me right now is an add for Tony Morrison's new book xD Oh, irony...
People can be so riduculous. "Looking for Alaska" helped me through such a hard time in my life, and I recommended it to all my friends as a book every teen should read. I can't remember off the top of my head any anti-religious anything in that novel, and even if there was, so what? Doesn't someone or a character have the right to believe or not believe whatever they choose?
If you treat children and young adults like they're dumb, they'll be mortified when they're jettisoned into the real world. Come on, people! You need books like "Looking for Alaska" to deal with real life conflicts, because honestly, that shit happens.

....Sorry, this turned into a rant instead of a praise. Mr. Green, if your writing makes sparks fly up (wow that was terrible...) that much among parents and teachers and other "parental authorities", I would take that as further certainty that you've written fantastic novels.

John Green: 1
Stuffy Adults: 0

 
At September 02, 2009 , Blogger Mother (Re)produces. said...

Wow, just... wow. This woman would complain if her child were trying to read Beloved? That's a difficult book for a lot of adults I know.

I like *** cows.
My kids like *** cows.
What's wrong with *** cows?

 
At March 25, 2010 , Anonymous Miriam said...

So I just read the complaint letter about "Looking For Alaska." Who writes a complaint letter in Comic Sans?

 

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