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A Book Reviewer's Apologies

So first, anyone who hasn't should read this brilliant blog post by Shannon Hale about book evaluation v. self evaluation.

(Hale's blog is one of my favorites about books, and that particular post brilliantly articulates a bunch of things I've been trying to think about, but I kept finding my brain unequal to the task, and it's such a relief when someone says things you've been trying to think, which is also one of the things I enjoy so much about Hale's books.)

I've written many hundreds of book reviews for Booklist Magazine, and I've also reviewed books elsewhere. I stand by most of those reviews, but Hale's blog post made me think about the times I've been dead wrong.

All reviewers are sometimes wrong, of course--but in the spirit of Hale's post, I thought I'd post a couple re-evaluations.


1. Hale points out in her blog post that contemporary reviewers often place way too much emphasis on whether they "like" a book--as if the only thing a book can do is be likable. (One often hears, for instance, that Catcher in the Rye is a bad book because Holden isn't likable. Teenagers may have a hard time liking Holden, because the things that annoy other people about us are the things that annoy us about other people, but this isn't an indication that the book is bad; it is an indication that the book is good.) Roger Ebert taught me that the question is not whether the thing was fun; the question is whether the thing accomplished what it wanted to accomplish, and whether that thing was worth accomplishing.

Anyway, I have totally made this mistake in my reviewing career. The example that stands out most is Chuck Palahniuk. I don't think Chuck Palahniuk's books are finally very good, but I totally missed what is good (or at least seductive) about them, because I find his stories (except for Fight Club and to an extent Invisible Monsters) so disgustingly gratuitous. I was so overwhelmed with not-liking-it that I did not give his books their due. Instead, I should have acknowledged that they accomplish the thing they set out to accomplish, although I still believe that thing is not worth accomplishing.

2. Sometimes, you react negatively to something for stupid personal reasons that you don't have enough self-awareness to recognize. There are many examples of this in my life, but the one that stands out is TTYL by Lauren Myracle. I reviewed that book tepidly when it came out, because I felt like it was gimmicky and didn't really sound like kids IMing.

But in fact it did sound like kids IMing, which we know because a gajillion young people love that book and its sequels. And in fact, so do I--years later, I still find myself thinking about TTYL and the girls in it--the ways drama comes from within and without, and the weird mix of fragility and strength in teen friendships.

The reason I felt like it didn't sound like actual teenagers IMing is because it didn't sound like me IMing, and I was not yet accustomed to the idea that my way of experiencing the internet might be dated. I fancied myself such an expert in online communication that I felt I could be very high and mighty about emoticons.

Okay. That was embarrassing, but also kinda cathartic. Anyone else want to share book re-evaluations?

Here's to the transformative role books can play in our lives--even (perhaps especially) the ones we initially think we don't like.





(Except The Fountainhead. It just sucks.)

67 Comments:

At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Tricia said...

LMAO about your Fountainhead comment.

As always, you've given me something to think about. Thank you.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

could you elaborate on your reasons for hating "the fountainhead?" i received it as a gift a few years back, with much commendation from the giver on its life-changing qualities, but have simply not been able to wade through it (i. read. everything).

it seems to me that you love to procrastinate, & what better way for you to do so than to write a lengthy, impassioned blog post about your hatred of "the fountainhead?" thanks john :)

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Kiersten White said...

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At August 27, 2009 , Blogger C. M. Higgins said...

Awesome entry!


(Trufax: "The Fountainhead" is just miserable.)

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger John Green said...

Jess: I hate the Fountainhead because A. as a novel, I think it is really boring and didactic, and B. it is dead, dead wrong in its praise of individuality and total laissez-faire capitalism, and that if you think about the novel's themes for more than about five seconds, you realize that it's specifically tailored to readers who are trying to defend their privileged place in the world but who don't want to think too terribly hard about how they actually got where they are.

(imho)

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Suey said...

My answers to Shannon's questions found here.

And dare I admit that I sorta enjoyed The Fountainhead?

 
At August 27, 2009 , Anonymous Blaine said...

I will agree fully with your assessment of Chuck Palahniuk. He has some chops as far as writing goes. The thing that comes to mind most, to me, at the beginning of Choke, the story of the young boy and his mother and the act of her spray painting his shadow to the cliff. It is a really beautiful story and well written. However, I just don't get the appeal. It feels like too much shock and not enough substance. This, however, makes me terribly unpopular among my peers.

I would say that, for me, the best example of a book I don't like because of my personal feelings towards it is Catcher in the Rye. I understand it is an incredibly well written book and the story is brilliant, but I can't get past Holden as a narrator. He irks me. And I have come to understand over the years, that it is all me. It is a great book, I just dislike the character so much that I can't enjoy the book.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Anonymous ceciliarae8 said...

This is making me want to re-read the books that I was forced to read and hated. I wonder if reading them for myself might make the experience more enjoyable and allow me to actually delve into the story in my own way versus trying to figure out what it is that a professor wants to hear in my reaction paper.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

john: you pretty much described my cousin (the gift-giver), who is otherwise a nice guy, in his sense of privilege. & you pretty much described my perception of the novel (boring), from the like, fifty pages i've managed to read. thanks again.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger colorlessblue said...

I can't remember any books that I didn't like *at first* only. Most books I didn't like I still don't like now. I think Machado de Assis is an amazing genius even if I fall asleep when I try to read him, but I never found another person who likes books who had this problem, so I'm the one who's broken.
I think the Anita Blake series might be what's closest to this situation. I started reading wanting to punch all characters on the face, until I realized that me not liking the characters meant they were written as non-likable people. Except at the point I started to think "hey, they have personalities", the plot died.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Gretchen said...

I can't handle Malcom Gladwell, although everyone else seems to love him, and I completely realize that it's just me.

First, I have a hard time with non-fiction. Second, I hate pop-psych. (I suspect it's because my undergrad degree is in psychology.) Most of what he says seems supported purely by anecdotal evidence. Some of the actual studies he mentions are, by his own admission, non-scientific (and thus invalid in my opinion). The solid psychological studies that he does cite are things I thought were common knowledge (but probably aren't since not everyone was a psych major). I feel like he dumbs down all the academic aspects, and instead focuses on creating cute, memorable monikers for people and ideas, like "mavens" and "stickiness."

I totally realize however that the very reason I can't finish The Tipping Point, is exactly why people love Gladwell. He's a great writer, and he can take an idea which may seem confusing, and make it seem completely simple and memorable. If he kept all the academic parts that I would like to see, no one would read his books because they would be much less entertaining. I don't think I could write an unbiased review of one of his books.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger beverley said...

This was really interesting to read, I too judge books ridiculously fast and never really fully appreciate them (for better or worse). Thank you for posting something so insightful.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger emmet the allisonian said...

thanks for explaining your feelings about chuck p. i've often thought it was strange that you didn't like his work, as i noticed that his works + yours do similar good things for me a surprising amount of the time. but this makes sense. you have very different approaches, + you don't have to like each other to end up hitting the same bullseye in my belly.

i think one of the things i really love/hate about palahniuk is how wide the range of things you can walk away with from any one of his books is. i'm always running into people -- both fans + detractors -- who say things about his work that sound like such lazy reading to me. it's frustrating, but i think a lot of the time it's not so much laziness as just taking a different trip with the words. so if i can stop being such an ideasupremacist + actually engage in the conversations, i can end up finding out more reasons i love the text.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Kathryn Potraz said...

About Chuck Palahniuk - I like some of his books a lot (Fight Club, Diary, Haunted) but sometimes it is hard for me to get through the book because of the harsh and usually offensive descriptions in his books. However, I have found that when I do manage to finish one, the point he is trying to make is important and worth getting at.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Lex said...

I have several books that I disliked initially but now am very glad I read. Most of these are books I read for school-- Anna Karenina is one. In high school it infuriated me that Tolstoy would spend an entire chapter describing the minutia of a horse race and then spend less than a paragraph on a major plot point like a divorce. Now I realize that it was a stylistic choice that I didn't connect with at the time.

I used to be very picky about music-- if it didn't please me immediately, I didn't like it. Since then, I've grown as a musician myself and I can finally give Bartok and Monk and Glass the respect and attention they deserve. Maybe it's the same way with books. As I learn more about narrative, I like things better.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger HWPetty said...

I recently reviewed AMERICAN GODS by Neil Gaiman, and this post made me think of that review.

I thought the mythology was brilliant and the writing was amazing, but I never connected to the main character, so in the end I didn't like the book.

And while I know there's this school of thought that says a professional critic should look at criteria rather than personal response when reviewing art, I think that's kind of a dated, purely academic notion that fuels elitism.

With the advent of blogs, and specifically book blogs, I also think the time of the "professional newspaper critic who knows more than you" is sliding away. (Sadness for Ebert. Double-sad for the NYT.)

We will all find reviewers who we tend to agree with and look to them for book recs. And it's going to be about what we like and don't like, not based on the English theory and deconstructionist blathering I was forced to read in English journals at college.

Is there still a place for that? Maybe. But I find it a little like the art philosophers who think that Monet's red flecks in Waterlillies represented his sexual tension... um, projecting much?

Art isn't about an expert telling us why it's good or important. Art is about individual experience. As much as the artist puts his own motives, ideals, and choices into the piece, in the end, it means what the onlooker decides it means.

So, I guess I stand by my review of AMERICAN GODS; it was brilliant, but I didn't like it. That doesn't mean I won't read and enjoy other Gaiman novels (I've loved everything else I've read of his.)

But I believe that to put aside my personal experiences and preferences would be a disservice to the people who read my reviews. It would rob them of my full evaluation.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Jessie Carty said...

way to go giving me another blog to follow :)

i have been moving away from reviewing books for a lot of what you described, but maybe if i can get that through my head - did the book accomplish what it set out to? - i can do a bit more reviewing again.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Unknown said...

Colorlessblue, you aren't the only one who has this problem. I love books, and some of my favorite writers put me to sleep when I read them. I fell asleep reading the Three Musketeers, I fell asleep reading Heart of Darkness, and I fell asleep reading Wuthering Heights. It's not because they're bad books, or because I didn't like them,* it's because the prose is very dense. Hopefully you won't feel like you're broken in the future.

*As I side note, I actually didn't like Wuthering Heights. I know it's a good book, but I hate virtually every character in the book and so it was very hard to get through for me. Wuthering Heights and Atonement are the only two books that have borne me through them entirely on the beauty of their prose.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Angela said...

As a librarian who works and reads alongside teens, I end up reading YA novels with one half of myself reviewing it as a 30-year-old woman, and half of myself trying to review it as a teen.

So, the liking or not liking question weighs heavily on me. I read Twilight with disgust as a woman who thinks Edward is a punk, but also as a giddy 15-year-old who thinks that Edward is like the cutest thing ever!!!

And like teens, I have no problem with stating that I found a book utterly boring or poorly written. Some of them just are, no matter what we like to tell ourselves!

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Bryce said...

Palahniuk is so liked because he's dirty and gritty and tells facts and anecdotes along the way. He goes places that other writers are afraid to (sex in church, gangbangs, the mind of a 13 year-old terrorist, giving oral sex to a border guard, cannibalism, etc.) and it's fun to let those dirty, dark things flow over you for a while. For me his writing is a release, like seeing an action blockbuster filled with mindless killing. It's just fun and meant to shock; he gets the job done. Except survivor, that book sucked.

As for books I read and didn't like the first time: Catcher in the Rye is one of them (I commented on your Catcher in the Rye post about my experiences with that book). Another one is October Sky or Rocket Boys as it was first published. I know "how can you not like a book about some teens trying to build rockets?". I thought it was boring and poorly written. Later I realized it was a memoir of an actual NASA engineer and reread it. I found it to still be boring, but I understood where the author was coming from and it did accomplish what it set out to do. I had a similar experience with Angela's Ashes (which I think is a great book now).

Also; I don't like any of Ayn Rand's books.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Anonymous Gwenda said...

Great post -- and I'll have to do some thinking. Of course, we all do this at times. If a bunch of smart people whose opinions I trust like* something and I don't, that's generally a good sign to me that I should think really long and hard about what and why it doesn't work for me. And also to realize they're probably _right_, and I'm probably reading while being too far into my own head to judge effectively.

*In this context like stands in for *think is amazing*

 
At August 27, 2009 , Anonymous Courtney said...

I would like to issue a formal apology to Jane Austen. I read Emma for a high school project and was completely put off by sentences that lasted half a page with eight semicolons and completely pretentious and (in my opinion) shallow characters. I projected my radical (and then uneducated) feminist views onto Jane and all of her female characters who only wanted to get married.

Reading Pride and Prejudice as a college senior was a completely different experience. I learned to adore the fact that someone could write a grammatically correct sentence with eight semicolons. Austen also puts together strings of six or seven words that are completely beautiful phonetically and in meaning.

I have also realized that Jane was writing narratives, yes, but also commenting on romance and the roles of men and women in a way that few could because she was a woman of the time. Instead of hating her books for portraying a lifestyle and set of social structures that I don't agree with, I can appreciate her for giving me a tool and unique viewpoint through which to view these structures.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger wabashteens said...

Love and economics, that's Jane Austen. And I prefer eight semicolons per sentence to Hemingway's tiny little fractured sentences that always seem too short...

 
At August 27, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Dee said...

That's totally happened to me! I started reading Mrs. Dalloway one time, but just couldn't stand it. Some time later, we read it in my English class, and suddenly I got it. The way it is written is perfect with the subject being dealt with. It's not one of my favorite books, but I can respect the work. When I start reading a book, I will try to get to the end, even if i'm not convinced by my reading, because I hope that by the end, I will find some redeeming quality that'll make the book worthwhile. Sadly, that doesn't always happen.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ayn Rand's "Objectivism" or "Rational Self-Interest" as I have also heard it called, is such a polor opposite of the world view expressed in Paper Towns or the David Foster Wallace commencement speech, that i was not suprised to see you speak against it.

Keep preaching I will keep saying amen from my front row seat in the choir. -Nerdfighter Nate

 
At August 27, 2009 , Anonymous Julianne said...

Hey John, I'm 15 and I have to admit I fit right in that stereotype of teenagers who dislike Holden. I'm afraid the book just didn't click with me. Maybe someday I will go back and really appreciate it, but for now I'm afraid I can't like it.
I've never read The Fountainhead, but I did read Anthem in English class last year, and I thought it was all right. I felt like she made some good points that are actually kind of like that video Hank made one, about how you shouldn't love everybody in the world equally; you should love the people that are close to you in a different way from people that you don't know that need your help. In the society in Anthem, everyone was your brother or sister and you cared for them exactly the same way. I felt like she wasn't saying individualism was only looking out for yourself. It was also about being able to choose people that you feel closer to over others. I found that part of the book meaningful. But hey, I didn't like Catcher In The Rye. :/
I didn't catch a "defending privileged people" vibe in Anthem, though. I didn't think Ayn Rand was privileged...wasn't she born in Soviet Russia?

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Beth S. said...

Fabulous post John. I loved what you said in point #1. In fact, I hate to admit this, but it kind of reminds me of my own experience reading Looking for Alaska. My initial ambivalence toward the book was more because of my own dislike of the type of lifestyle the characters in the novel were living and was not a commentary on the actual writing itself. And as you mentioned, just because you don't like the characters doesn't necessarily mean that the book is bad.

I didn't realize this until I was watching a video of writing teacher Penny Kittle give a book talk on Looking for Alaska and she was describing to her high school students how much she loved the way the book was constructed with the days before and days after. It was at that moment I realized I had poorly evaluated the book when I first read it.

I still prefer Paper Towns over Alaska (Haven't read Katherines yet but it's on my list), but I have to say that I have crossed over from ambivalent to favorable feelings toward it.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Anonymous XOX said...

I like Chuck Palahniuk's books a lot. And I would like to read your negative reviews on his works. I would not get mad though, as we all have different taste in books. And I like your books too. I just like to have books that go out of their ways to try to impress me, or gross me out.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Blogger Crystal said...

Harry Potter became popular when I was in seventh grade. Among the unpopular kids (including myself), HP was taking over. But because Cora Swenson liked it, I refused to read it and assumed the book must suck if she liked it. In eighth grade, though, I decided to read Chamber of Secrets for AR points. And I loved it. It was pretty depressing at first because I spent so much time and energy hating it. But Harry Potter is now one of my favoritest things ever, so there ya go.

 
At August 27, 2009 , Anonymous lauren myracle said...

Aw, John. That is all I can say. Well, no, it is not. I knew when I met you that you'd written that review (which embarrassed me, yes, as all bad reviews embarrass the authors), and yet I loved you nonetheless, because you are so lovable.

But I feel REALLY good right now. And happy! You've allowed me to experience catharsis, too, because we never TALKED about that less-than-pleasant review, and yet we both knew it was out there.

(And of course that's the way of it, and perfectly reasonable. Authors have to deal with reviews and reviewers, period. Both positive *and* negative. Only whiner babies make a stink! ;))

But, John. I admire you for being willing to unveil the uncomfortable, and I am fascinated by your take on why you responded the way you did. (I am also COMPLETELY willing to admit ttyl's many flaws. I'm proud of that baby, but hey, it's sure not perfect.)

Anyway, thank you for this. You are a gentleman in the truest sense of the word!

 
At August 28, 2009 , Anonymous Kelly Mytinger said...

Agreed. The Fountainhead really DOES just suck.

 
At August 28, 2009 , Blogger Candace said...

For me, what I think about when I review a book is not whether or not I liked it- like you said John, it's about whether or not the book accomplished it's goal in a way that was understandable, entertaining/attention holding.

And I have no idea what The Fountainhead is but I guess I'm not missing out on much from the comments from others.

 
At August 28, 2009 , Blogger pls said...

John, I must respectfully disagree with your rejection of Ayn Rand's "The Fountainhead". I read it at a point in my life where I had to make some major decisions before I could move ahead, and the book convinced me to go with my heart instead of my head. I've never regretted that decision. Yes, the prose is turgid, and the message is didactic, but the story is dynamic, and I'm grateful that I found a book which really did make a difference in my life at the exact time that I needed it.

Having stated the above, I must add that your three novels are much more approachable in doing the same thing for young people. So - when are you going to curtail your gadding about and write another life-changing novel??

 
At August 28, 2009 , Blogger Literature Crazy said...

I was actually just getting ready to post a blog (on my book review blog to be very meta) about how I read others' reviews with a critical eye. In evaluating whether or not to get some books today via reading comments on GoodReads.com, I read people that low-starred books because they were "depressing," the characters "weren't sympathetic," and they had too much illicit content. To that I say: Life is depressing, people aren't always sympathetic (or worthy of your sympathies) and contains illict activities and speech. If you don't want to read that type of book, find yourself a "beach read" (because reading can be "fun" too), but don't knock the author. Did you read the blurb on the back? If it mentions divorce, death of a child, tragedy, etc., it's likely not going to be a laugh-fest. Not the author's fault.

Please don't even get me started on people who pick up a YA book, not knowing it's YA, and then give it a 1 or 2-star review because it was too "juvenile." Good Lord, people, pay attention.

(And I love The Fountainhead because Ayn Rand did exactly what she wanted to do. Was I necessarily the intended audience? No. Does the novel "speak" to me? No. Does that make Rand a failure? No.)

 
At August 28, 2009 , Blogger Rachel Wilson said...

Ha! My experience of The Fountainhead is that it's the book people read when they need to work up the guts to break up with their significant others.

Life-changing, yes. And laissez-faire capitalism tossed in for bonus.

Your disclaimer made me laugh and laugh. I haven't read The Fountainhead, and I don't plan to, but that book, the sight of that book . . . Ew!

 
At August 28, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm actually two thirds of the way through The Fountainhead, and adoring it (Other than the fact I have a feeling I'll hate all of the characters by the end.)
I was very interested in the your opinion, though. The themes I came up with were quite different, and it's interesting to see how many ways a book can be read. Subjectivity rocks.

 
At August 28, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

haha the fountainhead...

 
At August 29, 2009 , Blogger Sarah Woodard said...

I review books and I pretty much give every book a chance. If I am fifty pages in and don't like it. I switch books and try to get in the mood to read that book. I stand by pretty much all my reviews. I point out both the posistive and negative in a review. I also suggest who would like this book. For example, I hated Beautiful World by Anastasia Holling, but I suggested it for people that like The Clique and Gossip Girl, which I wasn't a fan of either. Their isn't any author that I hate right out.
Anyways great post and I love Shannon Hale's blog.

 
At August 29, 2009 , Anonymous matt said...

John,

Your thoughts on The Fountainhead are probably right-on. They really do convey what I think the book stands for as this big, dangerous launch of the sort of popular Nietzschean conservativism that underwrites like, the current Republican party or whatever (Pull yourself up by your bootstraps! Why don't the homeless just get initiative!). It's a good (disinterested?) reading that seems "responsible," at least with respect to the values you're attributing to good reading/reviewing in this post.

But I wonder if there is and isn't something similar happening with people who like or do not like Catcher. While disliking a book because you as a reader "don't identify" with the protagonist may not be the same thing as "is it good or not," and therefore may be a bad way to review a work, there's something else that could be happening here as well. Catcher's replication on reading lists around the country is validated by its "universal" value - some abstract quality like whether a book is "good" or not - but that placement itself sort of misses the fact that certain books' "universal" goodness masks the normalizing forces they encourage. Like, Catcher is about a whiny guy with tons of privilege who's all angsty in a way unique to privileged, straight, middle-to-upper class, white males, and so it's hard at times to keep repeating that text as "universally good" without making a particularly-perspectived (not a word?) book into something that makes other books representing other perspectives as interchangeable, subjective, and less important. So "Beloved" or "Como Agua Por Chocolate" are good, you know, for Af-Am lit or women's lit, but Catcher is "Good" with a capital G.

In other words, whenever we get into a debate about the "objective" review, there are always going to be other politics at work going on visibly or invisibly, and it's hard to tease those out. I don't know what is good or not, but I suppose I can say things about a book, based on the unique experience I've had as a reader or critic or whatever, and maybe that's good enough.

Also, two thumbs up (sorry for the review joke) for Lauren Myracle's post and for the resolution of latent, back-of-my-mind tension. It was like an I'm-glad-you-said-that hug across the computer.

 
At August 29, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it weird that the library's defenses of contested books used as primary justification (at least as it was the first reason given) the fact that other "reputable" review sources had remarked on the high quality of the books in question?

 
At August 29, 2009 , Anonymous Katie Lynn said...

John,I saw something today that REALLY UPSET ME. A large stack of Looking For Alaskas on the CLEARANCE aisle of BAM. I thought, this is terrible. I thought, John Green is not being appreciated. I thought, I have to do something. So I bought another copy. And I complained to the clerk. He told me I should read Kurt Vonnegut.

 
At August 30, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

THANK YOU for your comment on The Fountainhead! I can't stand that book.

 
At August 30, 2009 , Anonymous Mana said...

I read Catcher because it was recommended to me by a close friend. Where she saw a symbol of confused youth, I saw a whiny kid who seemed much too self-absorbed for my tastes. Later, I realized-as you have written-that I didn't judge the book based on whether it accomplished what it set out to do or not. I judged the protagonist. Which is probably not very fair.

Looking deeper I realize I adore the message. I emphathize with the fear of falling off the edge of the rye field. But as a novel,for me, it's still best viewed from a distance, much like an abstract painting. I'll probably still think about that message years from now and my reaction to it, but it doesn't resonate as strongly as other novels have.

I read Fountainhead because it offered a scholarship to essay winners. And you know...Money. For reading. And like another person commented, it was a message that I needed at that moment in time. And though I can see the over-privileged perspective, that's not what I initially got from the text. I felt that I didn't have to repent all the time, that it was okay to like myself and try to make myself happy and not live through others. And maybe that's a lesson one should teach oneself, but that book made me realize that I wasn't the only one who felt that way. Spotlight effect anyone?

And I think in that way books connect us, varied perspectives and all. Yes, I appreciate Catcher (kinda how I feel about Gatsby now that I think about it...)but in the end Fountainhead and Dorian Gray and Alaska have resonated with me in ways that Catcher did not. Maybe like the distanced respect you'd feel towards a principal verses the affectionate kind you'd feel towards a close teacher? I don't know. Still pondering.

P.S. This is my first time commenting, so I just want to mention that I love your books. <3

 
At August 30, 2009 , Blogger beckstraordinary said...

Great Expectations has been great every time I've read it. (twice) That Mrs. Havisham...she's a character.

(not afraid to restate the obvious)

 
At August 31, 2009 , Anonymous glaring metamorphoses said...

apologies if such a list already exists, but could you (author john green) put together a list of books you like, books that are good, books you think young adults with access to books should read, etc? i'm always looking for good books, and sometimes the judging by its cover method lets me down...

 
At August 31, 2009 , Anonymous Adela said...

That's happened to me a LOT. And the weird thing is that you don't realize your judgement was selfish for a really long time!
By the way I also didn't think that TTYL looked like teens IMing...

John, could you update us on the Paper Towns movie? You wrote that you were editing the screen play but what else is happening with that? Is it a sure thing yet?

 
At August 31, 2009 , Anonymous Cassie said...

You just made me very happy John Green. I have been a nerdfighter for a long time (and you have always been my favorite brother) but I've been a Shannon Hale fan for longer. It makes me happy to have her noticed. And you make me happy all the time. So, happiness all around.

 
At August 31, 2009 , Blogger Gel said...

I think I did the EXACT same thing to TTYL. I read half of it. And it just IRKED me because it's not how MY friends talked. Maybe I'll take a second look at it now. (:

 
At September 01, 2009 , Anonymous glaring metamorphoses said...

sorry, but i am really excited and must share this with someone. but i just figured out we can get internet on our wii, and was watching youtube videos. think about this--john green ON MY TV. (!) this is where we should be going, people!

 
At September 01, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't mean to change the subject, ok actually I do, but when are you going to talk about "The Hunger Games" again? I've been wondering what you have to say about it for a while! :-)

 
At September 02, 2009 , Anonymous Naeryan said...

Lord of the Rings. I hated it when I was younger, but I'm enjoying it this time round. I'm not sure why.

 
At September 03, 2009 , Anonymous GilaB said...

Yes, I was actually wondering if you'd read 'Catching Fire,' the 'Hunger Games' sequel, and what you thought of it. I stayed up too late to read it all in one sitting last night, just as I did with volume 1, but I think it does suffer from certain classic middle-book-of-a-trilogy issues.

I read the Fountainhead in HS, because a friend told me it was wonderful and amazing, and found myself wondering why we needed to spend 900+ pages with these cardboard characters just so she could have them give two long speeches at the end. All she obviously _wanted_ to write was the speeches.

 
At September 04, 2009 , Anonymous WeNameOurPlants said...

so it's been about a year since i last read my favorite John Green book, An Abundance of Katherines, and looking back, i realized that it ticks me off that colin got hurt and hassan was too self-conscious to help out, so lindsay had to take off her shirt and reveal her very purple bra. i always looked at it from colin's point of view, but now that i see it from mine, everything looks a little bit different. book re-evaluation...thanks for bringing it up.

 
At September 07, 2009 , Blogger Susan L. Lipson, Author & Writing Teacher said...

Our response to whatever we read is colored by WHENever and WHEREever we read it. Try rereading a book you loved as a kid and see whether you still love it as much. You will either find yourself saying, "Who the heck was I then, and why did I like this so much?," or "Aah, that book still moves me, and even moreso today, given my added life experiences." After testing your literary loves for situational dependence this way, you will learn something about the fundamental truth of your taste in books.

I still love Holden Caulfield, by the way. As I will always love Miles Halter...

And John, I would LOVE a review by you someday. Come check out MY blog when you have a chance: www.susanllipson@blogspot.com

 
At September 09, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great post.
(From a writer getting her first reviews now-*gasp*)

 
At September 09, 2009 , Blogger Kurtis said...

Compared to Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead is mild and concise.

Great post.

 
At September 18, 2009 , Blogger Jacob said...

Book reviews: This is the way I do reviews: If I don't like a book, I don't review it, because the whole review would go like this:

"I did not like [Book name]. I do not know why. I just did not. It was terrible."

The first book that comes to mind there is Sybil by Flora Rheta Schreiber, which I read in, like, fifth grade, and I found it extremely graphic and hard to like. Still, Ms. Schreiber did accomplish what she was trying to, which is that the reader understand why Sybil had those multiple personalities; thus, the book succeeded, but I still kind of hated it.

Add- Unfortunately for me, I actually like Ayn Rand's books, but more so because I like them as works of literature than their actual political message. There fore, do I suck?

 
At September 20, 2009 , Blogger Jen said...

I believe that time and circumstances play a big part in how you feel about a book. The first time I read Skinny Legs and All by Tom Robbins I couldn't even make it half-way through. I was in college at the time and I think it wasn't *intellectual* enough for me. A few years later I tried again and loved it.

My husband had a similar experience with To Kill a Mockingbird. Somehow he managed to miss reading it in school, so I insisted that he read it after we got married. He gave it a shot at a particularly busy time of year for him, and was highly pissed by the worthless kids lazing away their summer days. He tried it again during the summer, and now understands why it's such a highly regarded book. He just had to be in the right mindset.

 
At September 21, 2009 , Blogger Kim said...

i just finished reading "Looking for Alaska" after having cried during my break at work, on the bus ride home, and while having my dinner needing to finish this book today. I decided to look up your site. I've been watching your vlog brothers videos for a little while, and i think you and your brother are fantastic, but that is not why i am writing. In response to your question about re-reviewing a book, how about looking at something the other way. A book I "loved" and now hate. The almighty "Twilight". I hate that book now for how bad it really is. I will still read it, and will cling to it's pages with guilty pleasure, but i LOVE to laugh at all those people who make fun of it and point out the worst of the story, because it really is nothing but a guilty pleasure and feels like reading fanfic everytime. anyways, my two cents, and i don't know if you'll even get to read this, but i wanted to share with you that Alaska Young, and even more, Miles (Pudge) Halter have touched my life.

 
At September 24, 2009 , Blogger joey said...

this is how i feel about a lot of music. it really helps to think about the music you're listening to in terms of the musician as opposed to how it impacts on yourself.

but it does help when you can relate, i suppose.

i read john updike's rabbit, run this year and i cannot like it. rabbit kills me and i've read around that he's not meant to be unlikeable. but i want to kick the shit out of this guy whenever i started reading it. so, i can't get over this hatred to see the book as the masterpiece people make it out to be.

guess i'm just missing out :c

 
At September 24, 2009 , Blogger joey said...

and i love holden caulfield. am i just a miserable person? aw man.

 
At September 24, 2009 , Blogger Vicky Kern said...

Well that sucks. I just wrote this big long comment and I received an error message that it couldn't post.
Just wanted to say that earlier this year I read In the Lake of the Wood by Tim O'Brien and I didn't really like because I didn't like the characters and I didn't care what happened to them. It's an interesting paradigm to thnk that I shouldn't review a book based on its likeability. I'm going to ponder that as I'm reading in the future.

By the way - my 13-year old daughter is your biggest fan! She's read everything you've written - she's just finishing up the other stories in the holiday book.

 
At September 27, 2009 , Blogger Catherine said...

Clearly I'm a little behind, as I'm just reading this post, but I wanted to add my two cents. First, thanks for the thought provoking ideas and link to the blog. I can't wait to check it out. But here are the two things you left me wondering:

1. You said that you need to consider not whether you liked a book, but whether it accomplished what it set out to accomplish, and whether that was worth accomplishing. In your example, a book you didn't like fulfilled the first criteria, but failed on the second. I think this would happen a lot. How do you decide if something's worth accomplishing? Maybe I just need to read some reviews from people who didn't like a book, but still felt like it satisfied both criteria of a "good" book. Do you have any examples of this?

2. You focus on people who might be too quick to give negative reviews, but I have to wonder how often this happens in reverse. If disliking a book can sway you from reviewing it accurately, surely liking it can as well. And I'm not just talking about the kind of reviewer we'd ignore anyway--the one who hands out five-star reviews left and right, and overuses synonymous adjectives and exclamation points (amazing!!! incredible!!!). If intelligent, well-read people, like you, can make the mistake of being overly hard on a book/author, I bet you can be too easy on one too. I'd love to hear about that. I imagine it would be a little awkward to write a post rescinding a positive review, so I doubt it will happen, but you made me wonder. :-)

Also, I have to add that HWPetty makes a good argument for the validity of discussing whether you liked or disliked a book in a review. But I don't think you were saying that that should be left out entirely, just not solely focused on. Is that right?

 
At October 04, 2009 , Blogger Everchanging said...

I feel so out of place. All of this esoteric discussion of reviewing, whereas my writing style is distinctly...high...school....and it's about three months after the original post, but I tend to stalk people that way. (BTW LOVE YOUR BOOKS!! It's kind of intimidating posting on your blog. :-s)

But when I'm talking about books, I just try to be as honest as I can. I'm pretty specific when I criticize/love books, and try to bring up the good points, as well, since we all know that criticism hurts...

But judging whether a book accomplished its purpose or not...now that's interesting. I'm off to read something (Fountainhead? Catcher again? BTW, I still hate Holden Caulfield. Goddamn moron. Filthy hypocrite.) and try to test that out.

 
At December 03, 2009 , Anonymous wolfgang or oliver said...

john green is a little white ass whole who got everything in life and thinks that his mediocre writing is an actual talent. which makes me life since i actually do know what talent is and he does not have it. he is a shit writer and looking for Alaska and his comments have proven that, i hope this dude wakes up and realizes that if he was a different color then he would be a loser in a composed store. He can shove a big one for all i care, and the reason for the blog is that i just read looking for Alaska and i felt like i had gone through way more than his characters and my friends has also gone through more, why am i not the main character for a book instead of bitch ass pudge with his little " i am the only smart person in the world because I'm white and all my friends are white". Fuck john green and his pretentious books and attitude

 
At December 03, 2009 , Anonymous wolfgang or oliver said...

oh i didn't know that the actual john green was reading these, you talent less bastard. why don't you just write a book that actually means something to the world. Its not the the 1960's there are bigger things going on then your stupid little home town stories, i fucking hate you and as a up and coming writer you are the worst fucking person to think of. if i ever end up with a book like yours i hope someone tells me some how. are you really that pathetic that you open a blog about yourself by yourself, see i knew you had no talent bitch, bitch, bitch, oh yeah and I'm mixed I'm also Wolfgang or Oliver you ass licking bitch

 

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