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Book Advances and Marketing and the Cart and the Horse

(If you don't want to read a long and boring blog post about the business of publishing, scroll down for a delightful video in which I help two nerdfighters get engaged. The couple is awfully cute. She's a writer; he's in the USAF.)

Thanks to everyone--nerdfighters, first-time authors, old salts, anonymous editors, heroically nonaonymous editors--who commented on my blog post arguing that smaller advances with better royalties would be better for publisher and author alike. Three counterarguments emerged:*


1. "The only way to quit my day job is to get a big advance."

It was interesting to read Nancy Werlin's reply to this, that she finds having a day job helpful. I think Nancy and I are alike in this respect, but for writers who need to quit their jobs to write the best books they can, large amounts of upfront money may make sense (although I still think it's a bad bet financially in the long run, at least in my currently-imaginary world).


2. "The royalty structure you propose is impossible and unthinkable and will never work and you understand nothing about how much books cost to publish."

It is neither impossible nor unthinkable (and in fact it is an open secret that it's already working at several big publishing houses). But I'll post about that tomorrow, with math and everything. Ooh, math. I know, right?


3. "Big advances are important because they lead to big marketing budgets, which in turn sell books."

As I pointed out in comments, this may or may not be true, but it certainly shouldn't be true if publishing companies behave rationally.

(Obviously, no corporation behaves rationally, or else Citigroup's stock wouldn't be trading at $2.97, but let's at least begin thinking rationally, and then we can move on and try to think like a publishing company.)

Let's say that Editor A is publishing two books in the Fall of 2010.** One book, A, was advanced $10,000; one book, B, was advanced $100,000. For which book will she fight harder? Which book will she badger sales staff to read and promote?

The only rational answer is that she will fight harder for whichever book she thinks can sell better. Editor A is functionally in debt $110,000. It doesn't matter which of her two books makes back the lion's share of that $110,000; it only matters that the money is made. If she thinks the $10,000 book has a bigger audience, that is the book she should push.

Which is, in fact, precisely what happened to my first novel, Looking for Alaska. Dutton paid $8,000 for LfA, but my (amazing brilliant etc.) editor Julie Strauss-Gabel thought it could have a big audience. Sales and marketing agreed. And so there was a sizable (not huge, but significant) marketing push behind the book, and it became the lead YA title on a list full of much more expensive books.

Certainly, a book with a huge advance is more likely to get a marketing push than a book with a small advance. BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT the reason for this (again, if we're being rational) is not that big advances cause big marketing budgets, but because publishers usually pay more for the stuff they think has a big audience.^

So if an editor thinks highly enough of a book to pay $100,000*** for it, she probably still likes it enough to give it a big marketing push when it comes time for publication.

Big advances do not cause big marketing budgets. Expectation of sales cause big marketing budgets (and often cause big advances). This is why turning down money will not hurt your marketing budget, if a publisher is behaving rationally.****

As for the other point, proffered by the talented and wickedly funny Ally Carter, that a big advance is buzz in and of itself: True enough. But it's overpriced buzz. And it's important to note that for every Twilight, there are dozens of books that sold for mid-six figures that never approach profitability.

"Okay," you say, "but publishers don't behave rationally. If they behaved rationally, they wouldn't be massively overcommitted to a business model that has failed so spectacularly that many of them would be in real danger of bankruptcy if they were not owned by gigantic media corporations that can absorb the losses."

Oh, you. With your overlong and underpunctuated sentences, you could almost be me. But right, yes. This is very true. Do editors push books merely because they foolishly paid too much for them? Maybe somtimes. But am I the only person who worries that exploiting that irrationality for our short term gain is harming our business at the very moment of its greatest fragility?



* Well, I'm sure others emerged that I just didn't understand; you can reiterate them in comments.

** I know that in this day and age, no editor would ever publish a mere two books in a season; I'm just simplifying the math.

*** I realize this sounds like a lot of money, like an unreasonably disgusting amount of money, and the fact that I keep using this dollar figure in and of itself makes you a little bit sick to your stomach. But bear in mind that if an author pays for her own health insurance and publishes a book every two years, a $100,000 advance works out to a pretax annual salary of about $32,500. (I'm assuming a 15% agent commission and $10,000 a year for health insurance.)

**** However, there is something I kinda skirted in my previous post because it causes a huge problem for my argument: If an author gets a 20% royalty, the publisher--while they still make money--makes less per book than they would with a 10% royalty, and thus is less motivated to sell the book than they would be with a standard royalty. So you can make your $110,000 back faster by selling Book A. This is a real problem. (But so, of course, are big advances.) And I will address it in a massively boring mathy post tomorrow.

^ UPDATED attempt to be more clear: If the $100,000 book earns $100,000 and the $10,000 book earns $10,000, that is EXACTLY the same thing as if the $100,000 book earns $10,000 and the $10,000 book earns $100,000.

35 Comments:

At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Amanda McLoughlin said...

I am really enjoying these posts! Your insights into the publishing world are well-articulated and most welcome.

Do I foresee a phone call to Daniel Biss regarding tomorrow's math? ;)

As it says on Nerdfighters' favorite bride-to-be's wrist, DFTBA, John.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Paula said...

Math is definitely massively boring. Yet, oddly enough, my mind is already posting itself a mental reminder to come back tomorrow. I'm nothing if not a glutton for punishment as I try to make sense of the whole, making money from a job I love but would be homeless if I left my full time job for!

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Melissa A. said...

I think there are also different kinds of huge advances:

-ones that got big because a lot of houses were interested, hence an auction and a lot of excitement at the company (HP in America is a great example)

-ones that are big because the author has a built in audience or platform that a house thinks will do the work of the marketing.

I'd argue that the first would be much more likely to get the marketing budget. :) The second probably not as much without other factors.

I like these posts, please continue them, even mathy ones.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Travis said...

John, I sincerely hope you've enlisted the help of resident mathematician Daniel Biss for this one. We'd hate to see you assume 120 cents in a dollar or something. :)

 
At July 01, 2009 , Anonymous E. Lockhart said...

John: All this is fascinating and I love that you're opening up this conversation.

I have two points.

1. I think the editor who paid $100,000 for one book and $10,000 for the other still has to push the $100,000 book. If it sells badly, she looks the fool and has to answer to her company. Even if the book she bought for $10,000 did well, and especially if the numbers are moderate.

In other words, if "did well" for the $10,000 book means 40,000 copies, that's not enough to eclipse the lack of sales for the $100,000 book. Only if the $10,000 book hits it out of the park and really racks up numbers does the editor have a chance of no one noticing she paid $100,000 for a book that tanked. So the editor is still invested in doing all she can to make sure that $100,000 book does well, and if she thinks the two books have equal sales potential, the $10,000 book is going to suffer.

2. Yes, a high advance followed by lackluster sales can hurt a debut author, no doubt. But it doesn't hurt a mid-career author anywhere near so much. Mid-career author can go back to smallish advances and keep chugging along after a failure, especially if his or her books have some established critical reputation, or a clear audience, or some such. So if the mid-career author is offered some ridiculous chunk of money -- let's say for a high-concept idea or a co-written story :) -- then he can take it with no risk. If the book tanks or does moderately, the author got paid really well and goes on to write the next book for a smaller advance. The money from the big advance that will never earn out allows the author to take time off from work to write the next book, maybe; Or to go on vacation; or pay for school; or get health insurance, or rent office space. If the book sells insanely well, the author gets paid some more, but if it sells badly, he still comes out much farther ahead than if he took a lower advance.

So a high advance, even if never earned out, can be a real benefit to a mid-career writer, with no real drawback.


--E. Lockhart

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger John Green said...

To the brilliant E. Lockhart:

1. Like I say in the post, if editors are getting held accountable for 100k books earning 10k and not being held equally accountable for 10k books earning 100k, then publishers are behaving irrationally.

What I'm saying is that if the 10k book makes 100k and the 100k book makes 10k, that is EXACTLY the same thing as if the 100k book makes 100k and the 10k book makes 10k. It doesn't matter which book makes money.

2. I agree with you there is limited financial downside to a midcareer author taking a big advance for a cowritten book. (I've done that, too, remember!) I just worry that this behavior, when multiplied times a hundred, is eventually going to bankrupt publishing companies when instead we could all profit (or not) together.

2a. I realize this makes me something of a communist.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger lkmadigan said...

I'm in Camp Nancy Werlin.

I got a very nice advance for my 2-book deal, but I would never think of quitting my day job to write full-time. That advance was less than I make in a year at my job. And my employer pays benefits like medical, dental, pension and profit sharing, etc.

Of course, my book isn't even out yet. In the coming years, I may find that the demands (and maybe rewards) of being an author exceed the benefits of keeping my day job.

Until then, I remind myself that I will have a kid in college someday, and I'd like to be able to pay for that.

Thanks for letting me weigh in ... I'm off to work now!

Lisa

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Diana Rodriguez Wallach said...

I agree with Melissa A. that the reason for the big advance is a factor. Specifically, if a book goes to auction, often the author not only sees publishers competing on the size of the advance but also on the size of the marketing budget. (Dream the impossible, dream.)

But overall, I agree it would be nice if there were a more balanced pay structure.

Publishers should push all books they think will sell well. The question is: if they agreed to buy a book, doesn’t that mean they already have that assumption? And if so, then I agree with E. Lockhart, that it’s in the editor’s best interest to push sales for the book where she where she bet the farm. Because if the $10K book doesn’t earn out, what does the publisher lose? A few grand?

The $100k offers a greater risk and with the economy being what it is, and publishing layoffs being rampant, that editor is often not only risking her budget on that book but her job.

-Diana RW

 
At July 01, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's going to be math? Sounds like a job for Daniel Biss!!

ah - I see Amanda McLoughlin beat me to the punch.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see how you're going to convince authors who are using their possibly inflated advances to pay for rent, crappy health care and children, to suddenly give up their money for the greater good. It's not as though there are wonderful, well-paying careers out there for people who've only been writing novels for the last ten years. Irrational perhaps, but reality.

However, if you're going to discuss math, maybe you can include data on returns, large discounts given to retailers, sales forces that don't work off commission and publishers that flood hot markets (i.e. YA) with inferior product (most of which they probably did pay low advances for).

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger John Green said...

But Diana, my point is that it doesn't matter if the 110k comes from the 10k book or the 100k book, as long as it comes from somewhere.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger John Green said...

"I don't see how you're going to convince authors who are using their possibly inflated advances to pay for rent, crappy health care and children, to suddenly give up their money for the greater good."

A. For the vast majority of authors, lower advances with better royalties are a better long-term bet.

B. For the remaining authors, having nonbanrkupt publishers with professional staffs is a real plus, I think.

C. People seem to underestimate the poor health of American publishers. Or am I exaggerating it?

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Diana Rodriguez Wallach said...

True, John. I agree that in a rational world, the books would even each other out. And as an author, I like the picture you’re painting.

I just wonder if it matters to the editor career-wise. A lot of editors in this economy are buying books as if their jobs depend on it, because they do. So I’d imagine if they bet the farm on a book today, they’re going to try to sell it like gangbusters less they be down at the unemployment line. I’m just not as certain that an editor feels that same pressure for a $10K book, thus why they often don’t give it the same push.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can certainly see Camp Werlin's point, but for me, having kids changes everything. After a full day on the job, there's homework and play and threats about the TV to make, so it's not possible to work on my next book for which I would gratefully accept any advance. I will therefore continue to write my books between the hours of 10pm and 3am and marvel at how quickly the bags under my eyes deepen.

And ooh, more math! Can't wait!

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Nancy Werlin said...

Thanks for joining Camp Werlin, Lisa. (John, I must kindly point out that you are an ex-camper, and one of short duration. I say this as I move into my 26th year of the day job).

Laura: you're right, having kids changes everything about the math of artistic survival. I don't have them, but I have many writer friends who do, and their decisions need to be very different from mine.

However, most people see having children as an even stronger argument for needing a job. But the job-holder can be the other parent, if he/she is present and employed. And if your employed spouse/partner has access to health insurance, that's the pot of gold under the rainbow -- children or no children.

In any fully useful conversation about financial survival as a writer (which this maybe isn't, as it's focused only on advances/royalties; I would argue that you have to consider the mate and whether you have survival help.

Re the idea of a large advance as a way to take some time off from the day-job. That assumes that you'll be able to easily find a similar job on the other side of your break. But you might not.

Then again, I am a cautious woman. That has its issues, too.

-Nancy Werlin

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger John Green said...

Nancy: It is true that I am a former member of Camp Day Job. I would still have my day job, though (if they'd still have me), except that my wife keeps making me move for HER job.

What I should say is that I liked having a day job and didn't see it as an encumbrance.

But I also don't have kids, which I'm sure totally changes everything.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Heidi R. Kling said...

At this point in my career I could never afford to stay home with my young kids and write without my husband's salary and health benefits.

Even if I got a six-figure advance for my next book it could never cover our yearly expenses.

Kids are SO expensive as is running a household (especially in the Bay Area, CA). And it's not like publishers cut you a 100k check when they make an offer.

Even my friends who have major deals are barely getting by. The money trinkles in very slowly, over a long period of time.

In other words, I totally agree with Nancy Werlin: unless you have someone else helping to support your family, or you got an incredibly high advance, don't quit your day job.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger milowent said...

you know what's rational? CYA behavior. the individual editor doesn't control the rules, he or she just lives under them. the publishing house is a mass of people who are often acting rationally in their own self interest, which does equate to being rational in the aggregate view of the corporation.

So, if a $10K book is being pushed a lot harder than a $100K book, and both flop - whose ass gets chewed?

Only in the event that that the 10K book does quite well, and saves the profitability of both books, does the editor look awesome.

but the percentages are against the editor that this will happen. James Patterson's outlines are gripping, you know.

so the editor only pushes the 10K book if they are loony.

and loony people make all the difference.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger John C. Ford said...

This is completely fascinating.

1. I'm wondering . . . the premise is that *smaller* advances and *larger* royalties are better for authors/publishers/everybody. On the logic behind the argument, wouldn't **no** advances and **even bigger** royalties be even better?

2. I don't know if this discussion has considered how an author would/should choose among multiple publishers that want to put out her book in a world with a standard small advance and larger royalty cut? Presumably the publishers would try to stand out by offering big marketing programs (and other things generally considered good for the author and which cost a lot of $$). This means that the expectation problems with advances (i.e., the disappointment from big advance/small sales), which your idea laudably aims to solve, just gets pushed somewhere else. I.e., the publisher is going to be upset when the spent mega bucks on a promised marketing campaign for a book that didn't sell.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Maggie Stiefvater said...

Point to Mr. Green. No, I agree totally, big advances do not cause big marketing budgets. I think I even said something like "they dance hand in hand with each other" or "are frequently seen at the same bar making bedroom eyes at each other."

So yes, I think there has to be a better way to signal "this is going to be a big book!" than by calling it a significant/ major/ holycrap! deal in PM. In MY perfect world, when I am Queen of America, those terms will be used to describe the marketing budgets for said book instead. The advance won't even be mentioned.

Because really how much money the author gets up front does nothing for marketing the book or selling copies unless the author uses that money to put billboards in all of her inlaws' yards.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger jonathan said...

$10,000 for health insurance? You guys should do something with your health system over there.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger storyqueen said...

John,

I know it's the same amount of money (the whole 100,000 vs 10,000 advances, with the higher advance book making less money and the lower advance book making more money....both making 110,000) but you speak of publishers behaving rationally....well, I think most editors behave humanly.

They have simple human pride. If I were an editor (sung to the tune of If I Were a Rich Man....not really) my pride would cause me to make certain, as best as I could, that the big bucks book did not bite the dust in terms of sales.I would sell it, sell it, sell it to the marketing folks. Somehow, I'd have to justify throwing so much money at that author.

Yeah, if I made it a lot of money on a book I paid little for, well, it does make me look good. But good enough to wash away how stupid I look when Mr. 100k doesn't pan out?

I don't know.

Guess it's good I'm not an editor.

My point is that I'd love to see more in the negotiations besides advances and royalties....like marketing plans.......

Shelley

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Joni said...

You've got my vote for Queen, Maggie. And Jen had some great points about irrationality in economics. Most of the reading I've done in that area suggests that emotions are far more influential than reason in most decisions, period.

This discussion makes me wonder why publishers buy the $10K books at all, though. I sorta thought they were thinking, "We can make 15% profit even if it only sells 13 copies to the author's relatives, 'cause it was cheap to acquire, and we can make 15% profit on the $100K book, too, and of course the latter is more dollars but both investments have the same rate of return."

But if you're right, John, and the big promo budgets are simply a function of which books the editors (or marketing folks) are really most enthusiastic about, then the *rational* thing would be to ONLY take on books that they were THAT enthusiastic about [and therefore that they were willing to pay huge advances for]. Which, of course, they don't.

Are those of us in the 10K range of the spectrum essentially just lottery tickets? They expect to have thrown away the money, but hey, you never know? That's got to be pretty self-fulfilling in the vast majority of cases.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger J Leigh said...

John, I'm in a publishing institute and we had a speaker today who talked about how authors are able to promote their books better now than in the past because of the internet. He mentioned "John Green and his brother" creating a fanbase through YouTube and how that's working out for book sales. I feel so in the loop.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Anonymous John R said...

First a question: What happens to an author if a debut novel fails to make a profit? Are they really considered to be carrying a black mark as mentioned in a previous post? This is a terrifying thought to those of us that aren't yet published.

Second, and someone may have said this already, so please forgive me if this is a repeat.

I've read before, on a trusted site, that books rarely earn out their advances. What the percentage was escapes me, but it was a large one. However, the advance is already configured by the publisher to expect that. This is especially true for debut books, since there's no previous sales history.

The ideal world scenario of this is that each author would get an advance equal to what the book would make, so later royalties don't even come into play. Thus, a book on clock making would get a $2000 advance, and sell $2000 worth of product, and the next JK Rowling book would get a... $3 million advance and end up selling $3 million worth of product.

Thank you for posting this. It's a great peek at what goes on behind the curtain.

 
At July 01, 2009 , Blogger Maggie Stiefvater said...

*grin* Thanks, Joni.


The ideal world scenario of this is that each author would get an advance equal to what the book would make, so later royalties don't even come into play. Thus, a book on clock making would get a $2000 advance, and sell $2000 worth of product, and the next JK Rowling book would get a... $3 million advance and end up selling $3 million worth of product.


John R. said this -- but isn't this the scenario that we have now? I mean, that's what publishers think that they're doing. Before they make their giant offers, technically they've already run the numbers and are offering an advance that they think will be equal to the first year's royalties.

I think that the fewer books, more marketing is problematic as well as it could lead to a homogenization of the book world -- the quieter books getting pushed into the hands of indies only. Think . . . Hollywood vs. the indies. Only acquiring books that will have a massive audience.

The problem comes down to this, I think. In the case of a literary property two or more houses want, how do they show interest? Offering more money and showing a marketing plan that agents readily admit can disappear in hopes and dreams because they aren't contractual.

Much sexier to me, I think, would be stabilized advances and marketing plans that have contractual backing. A number of years guaranteed in print. Something quantifiable so that in PM it can say "sold, at auction, for a significant marketing initiative." Something that will give similar signals to everyone else ("this book will be big!") without representing such a wild outlay of money.

 
At July 02, 2009 , Blogger Jennifer Lynn Barnes said...

I completely agree that you can't attribute a causal relationship to the correlation between higher advances and larger marketing budgets/push. With any correlation, A could cause B, B could cause A, or a third factor could cause both- or some combination of all of the above may be true (which is actually the option I think is most likely). It could very well be the case that greater expected sales leads to larger advances, and that larger advances *and* greater sales expectations both influence marketing budget (or, more likely, influence some fourth variable, like editor push, time commitment, or in-house excitement that THEN influences the marketing budget). But at the same time, since all we have is correlational data, I'd argue that we actually can't make any conclusions at all. We can make educated hypotheses about how it works, but correlational data combined with a logical hypothesis about causation doesn't settle the question. You can't draw causal inferences from correlational data period- which means that you can't really make firm conclusion about what's the cart and what's the horse in this case; you can only talk about the logic behind thinking it *might* work a certain way (which I think John does well here).

But even assuming that John is right, and that its great expectations that are driving both higher advances and higher marketing budgets, I still think there's a rational for authors to pay a lot of attention to just how high the advance the publisher is offering is- because in some cases, it's the only one of the three (expectations, advance, marketing) that the author has access to when accepting a deal. In other words, even if advances aren't actually CAUSING anything, they strongly trend toward being an honest indicator of the kinds of expectations that will be brought to the table. Even if it's the expectation that's the root cause, if- for example- you have offers from multiple houses and one house offers a much higher advance, it seems reasonable to conclude that there might be differences in the expectations that the different houses have for the books, and that these expectations might affect marketing budget.

None of which negates the idea that you could try to negotiate larger royalties by lowering the advance- but it does suggest there might be some merit in trying to do so with the person who offered the highest advance (and may, therefore, have the highest expectations) in the first place.

 
At July 02, 2009 , Blogger Tobias said...

WOOHOO! Maths!!!

 
At July 02, 2009 , Blogger John Green said...

Jennifer: You make a very good observation about it being the only one of the three we can know (hence the widespread feeling in publishing that size of advance = amount of love).

What I'm saying is that if someone offers you $100,000 for a book and you say, "I would rather have $50,000," your marketing push shouldn't be any different than it would have been at 100k.

 
At July 02, 2009 , Blogger Nancy Werlin said...

Joni asks: "Are those of us in the 10K range of the spectrum essentially just lottery tickets? They expect to have thrown away the money, but hey, you never know?"

No, because the editor really likes your work; you can be sure of that. So it's not a lottery ticket, but more of a well-priced, long-term investment.

-Nancy Werlin

 
At July 02, 2009 , Blogger Jennifer Lynn Barnes said...

John:

Re: "What I'm saying is that if someone offers you $100,000 for a book and you say, "I would rather have $50,000," your marketing push shouldn't be any different than it would have been at 100k."

I agree that this should be true, if your very rational theory about the relationship between advance/push/expectations is correct. But being rational and being true are two different things, especially when it comes to human behavior. So basically, I think that this situation would be the perfect *test* of your theory, but I don't buy that the results are a foregone conclusion, because they only hold if the theory holds, and the only way to prove that a causal theory holds is to actually test it. So right now, we have a prediction based on a theory, but we can't then use the prediction as evidence for the theory- that's begging the question.

All of which just goes to say that I agree with your intuitions, and I agree that if those intuitions are correct, your prediction would be born out, but that doesn't mean that I'm ready to conclude that this would definitely happen- only that we have a strong basis for thinking that it *might*.

The case in question is also slightly different than the original case, which involved two editors, one who offered a higher advance and one who offered bigger royalties, and you argued that both the publisher and the author would be better off going with the second offer- which assumes that the two original offers were the result of equivalent expectations, despite the fact that the offers were greatly disparate.

So basically, I think you've provided a rationale for authors (if they share your intuitions) trying to accept less money, so long as they do so from the publisher who offered them the most in the first place- or from a publisher that the author has independent reasons to think has very high expectations of the book.

The problem (in my mind) of a system in which advances are capped at say, 50k, is that you'd need a new honest signal of publisher expectations, and I don't think that royalties would work in the same way, because while there's a logical connection between advance (which is based on projected sales numbers) and expectations, there is no such connection between royalty percentages and projected sales numbers (yet). I'm not sure I think that there ever could be, since it would be in the publisher's best interest to offer lower royalties on the books they think are going to sell the most, rather than the other way around. This isn't to say that I don't think it's feasible that the "houses competing over an author by offering better royalties" situation couldn't happen- I just think that if it DID happen, royalties wouldn't work as a signal of sales expectations as reliably as advance does. And I think it's important for authors to have some method of discerning expectations in order to make good decisions for their books.

All of which could be circumvented by something like what Maggie suggested, with marketing plans backed up contractually.

 
At July 02, 2009 , Blogger Brad Templeton said...

There is a way that big advances cause big marketing. As you write, the advance is, in part, determined by how much faith the publisher had in the ability of the book to sell well if marketed strongly. They would not pay a fat advance if they didn't intend to do fat marketing. Indeed, it's part of the implicit promise of a fat advance that the publisher will spend a lot to market the book. As a writer, you don't want to give somebody an exclusive on your book, and then find they wimp out on the marketing, and it fails, not because of you, but because of that.

When the publisher gathers the sales and distribution teams they tell them about all the books coming up. They say that every book is wonderful. They ask everybody to sell (or buy) lots of each book. And they they say, "We paid a million advance on this title" and "We paid $10,000 on that one." This is the strongest possible signal -- in many ways the only one that truly means something, and the buyers and sales teams understand it.

They don't want to trust the publisher to tell them that the book is great and they should buy or push a ton of copies. They want to know that the publisher really _feels_ it. And a putting money on the line is the only way to truly say you feel it unless you have a superb and trustworthy reputation. And sometimes even then.


Agents of course want a big advance. It's a mark of how good they are as an agent. Yes, getting higher royalties would also be a mark, but nothing is as clear as the big advance they negotiated. They really don't want to be your partner over the whole life of the book. They want to put food on their table today. They seem to prefer the lower-risk approach of knowing, the day they cut the deal, how much they made on selling that book, even if, in the long term, they might get more.

When an agent sells your book, they of course take some time to see how good it is. But by demanding big advances (and getting yes or no) the publishers help them know if they have a winner or turkey on their hands in advance. High royalties don't really tell you that until much later.


If you do decide to go for more royalties and less advance (and I have done so) the one important thing is to change the terms of exclusivity of the contract, which publishers will not like. If the publisher is going to pay you $200,000, they deserve exclusivity to give them the chance to earn that out. If they don't pay you an advance, they might wimp out on the marketing and still keep exclusive rights on the book.

The answer is to have a minimum. So not only do you ask for 20% royalty with low or no advance, you must also say, "And you must pay me $20,000 per quarter on average or I can cancel the contract and sell the book elsewhere."

What this means is that every quarter if sales are low, the publisher has to decide -- pay the overage or take the risk of losing exclusivity. If they pay under the minimum you may not cancel because you still need to have a better offer elsewhere, and if it's not the publisher's fault you won't.

This sort of deal is like an advance, in that it assures you of the large number as long as they are selling the book, but gives them the right to not pay it to you if the book doesn't sell, at the risk of losing the title. Obviously they get some rights when you cancel, to sell existing inventory for a period of time, limited first refusal on other offers etc.

A rational publisher, having lost a lot of money paying you $200,000 advance on a title that earned out only $50,000 should not punish you the next time. A rational publisher should only be judging how well your new book will sell. Of course, part of that will be realizing that they misjudged how much the public would love your book, and they will factor that in, but that's not punishing you, that's just adjusting their dial based on history.

 
At July 02, 2009 , Blogger A. Orr said...

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At July 02, 2009 , Blogger A. Orr said...

So not only do you ask for 20% royalty with low or no advance, you must also say, "And you must pay me $20,000 per quarter on average or I can cancel the contract and sell the book elsewhere."

Brad, I gotta know: Assuming the publisher took you up on this deal, is it actually working?Crossing my fingers...because this sounds like the perfect middle ground.

I wish I'd known about this possibility before I'd signed with my publisher. I'm currently watching my print run turn to hot ash, while I run circles around the pyre with an empty extinguisher.

 
At July 03, 2009 , Anonymous stacy said...

In the discussion about publishers being the ones who misjudged how well a book would do, let's not forget that publishers are forced to put the black marks on authors' records not because they want to, but because the next book won't sell as well into the bookstores (chain and independent) because *bookstores* won't buy the book. We have a system in which if the first book lays down, say, 50,000, but only sells 20,000, and 30,000 are returned, on the next book, the laydown will only be 15,000 because bookstores will not only expect not to hit the last laydown numbers, but they won't expect to even make the sales numbers they made from the last book.

Which leaves publishers having to reduce the deal offered to the author because they won't be able to get the support of the book buyers and sales staff in the bookstores behind the new book.

 

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